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Comment Re:Check out Jia Zhangke's Dance on youtube (Score 1) 113

I watched it. It didn't hold me for 5 minutes. It might if I knew this guy's work better.

One thing I noticed is that it chops between scenes quickly, and they appear disjointed, I get the encounter and conversation of director and mimic, are supposed to glue them together, but I missed that tracking what was going on visually. Lots of jarring changes of scene.

I've seen this with AI movies on youtube, it's almost like now I can do anything easily with AI, I am going to try and show you everything I can imagine off the top of my head, without worrying about what's practical for a shot movie. We get short clips, almost too perfect, where the lighting is often weird, mashed together in hope a story emerges later, or the impression of a story. Like editing and production have been mashed together. It feels rushed, it doesn't feel considered or valuable. I guess that's why it gets called dross.

The tools and methods we use affect what we make. The movies we know take months, years, in which time things change including the actors understanding of their character, the writers understanding of the story, the production team clicking together and lots of editing decisions. My guess is you don't get that in producing an AI movie, that all gets squished and there's little group collaboration and you get a very singular perspective. Star wars sequels vs originals are a good example why limitations of the original and the collaboration produced something better than telling George, meh do what you like you have the final say for the sequels, Jar Jar saves the day, great idea George, go for it.

This maybe the reason why, for me, AI movies don't yet have that intangible quality, for want of a better word to call it, a soul.

Comment Re:Bitcoin does not need Washington to save it. (Score 1) 79

If you can own a fraction of a bitcoin, as my mate does, you can have as many fractions as you like, an infinite supply

"The supply schedule is predetermined and transparent," is bullshit friend.

And I don't want deregulation or anonymous transactions, I want a chance to know if you are planning to buy a nuke or setup the next Epstein island.

You'll separate money from political control. Also bullshit, you have to have your exchange somewhere, in a datacentre that is a resource, politics is about controlling resources, and if you don't do what the government says and you become a threat, you get coerced and or taken out.

There is a reason why crypto is the favoured currency of crime and terrorism, shortly followed by the dollar.

Haven't seen any crypto bros for ages on here and I do enjoy their delusions and naked greed.

Comment Re:That settles it... (Score 1) 127

Learn to use tone. It's not what you write, it's how you write it and how it could be interpreted. In general, I suggest, never use something as painful and emotive as suicide to make a point other than its always a tragedy unless you want to leave a bad taste.

Comment Re:That settles it... (Score 1) 127

You made a point around mocking a suicide. You could have done that differently , what you did was callous, distasteful and you were called out. Free speech deserves personal responsibility and respect, it has been hard won and is always under threat

Comment Re:Functionally illiterate is the new norm (Score 1) 97

Yours is the anti luddite argument.

How are those innovations comparable? They all improved or replaced something.

What does AI, a fallacious term, improve or replace ? Intelligence ? Well it's not Intelligence, for the simple reason it doesn't know when its wrong. It has no concept of true or false, at best an approximation of probability provided it has content or user feedback.

Search, summary and content creation it makes easier and quicker, but they are only part of an improvement, it fails or is at least as bad as human intelligence on quality. And for content creation, we are rejecting it as AI dross, because humans value human made and human service. We pay more for human made, we keep it and we throw away the cheap and mass produced. We pay more for personal service than impersonal, it's a Michelin star vs McDonalds.

As an example, I have a friend, owns a successful video game company, employs 150. I asked him what % of work AI was fulfilling, at best he says it's 5%. They use it for the boring work like adding bones to models to free them up for creative work. We could say that's impressive, it could hit their margin, but that 5% of work was spread across their workforce, they still employ the same numbers and they have additional costs of licensing and learning to use AI and patching AI mistakes.

That's very far from revolutionary when compared to a mobile phone. Does it really warrant 40% of share value in the US?

This is hype, an evolution of crypto marketing. Money for something artificial that only has value if we are all dependent on it. And what would depending on AI look like? Very real stupidity.

Comment Re: VR requirements (Score 1) 62

Meh , maybe don't call it "Reality" then. As we perceive, if we are lucky and healthy, it's 32K (AI guess) at 60fps

I had Quest, too heavy, made my eyes hurt. Max play time 1hr. It was fun for a few weeks, good for jump scares.

I dont get why we put all the weight on the head, I'd be ok with cpu gubbins on a waste belt and a wire to some glasses

Comment Disturbing minds (Score 1) 127

The way OpenAI operates is as weird as Altman's stare.

Sociopathic odd balls.

Its a marketing war between AI to invent the best bullshit value for something they are beginning to realise customers don't value or have much need for.

Stop calling it AI and call it an iffy search v2.0 . It's not weighting ads in the output, yet , just doesn't know when its wrong

Comment Re:Functionally illiterate is the new norm (Score 1) 97

Yeah there's a bit of that going on. But Microsoft didn't claim it was going to make most work redundant and suck up all investment from something actually useful.

AI has some irresponsible marketing bullshit that's got a lot of folks laid off and leaving the ones behind to work harder.

MS Windows created lots of IT support roles.

Comment Re: Hardly Re:"rocket ambition dept"? (Score 1) 95

Ok cousin, I'll bite, lets get it on.

That's the thing: They're not. Try reading more.

By better, look at production volumes. They leaned into automation, you guys are playing catchup. Meh. They have quality problems. Who hasn't? Ask Boeing.

There's already a more concise word for what you're asking for. Benito Mussolini ...

There you go, right off the deep end. I agree Mussolini got it wrong, piano wire, lamp post justice caught up with him.

We can look at capitalists from history, when it's good, its good and when it's bad it's terrible as is any extreme. Best way is always down the middle and capital is taking the piss atm. Look at AI hype. If any of their bullshit was vaguely plausible, who is going to be able to buy anything if no one is working? That's the end of economy, markets, motivation, reward, creativity, progress, meaningful existence. Until AI can manifest physically, and robots are no where near, the whole pitch is moon pie. It's a very good example of marketing scooping the single mindedness of capitalism that's always with the profit and short termism.

Extreme socialists are as deluded in their own way, but less likely to mug me. Caring sharing bunch.

On this topic: Ever notice every bad ideology resulting in the deaths of tens of millions (and likely more) started in Europe? Not to mention all four world wars were started by Europeans -- though I kind of doubt you can name all of them. Shit, you're probably only aware of two, and only because it's in the common name of those two.

Fuck me really? You want to talk about war? Your country is a war machine. You have been at it since you got started. If you are not shooting a foreigner you are shooting each other .

I cant name 4 world wars, you are right. Last 2 were important to recent history.

.. the state can either take over or nationalize their business, or install its own board of directors and/or management, exerting control without nationalizing it.

I am ok with that. It's the states job to protect the people sometimes and right now we are getting fucked by the water and energy utils for profit and poor quality. These are the surviving essentials of a functioning society and the infrastructure was paid with public money. That parade of monopolistic, cynical, greedy cunts can go fuck their kids. They are holding us all back and putting brakes on the economy and prosperity.

Re. My language. Welcome to Britain, an irreverent and rude culture. The original punks. We cut the heads off of kings.

... the criticisms was Monsanto

When they went down the terminal seed route. Fuck em. I don't need to know any more about them. Bad is bad. Open source it. It's food ffs.

It's bunk.

You a farmer or a biologist? Ai Jockey? Futurist? You know more about this than me. My position is, is it safe, are they taking the piss? If its a yes and no, cool.

Basically the only thing you have going for you in this regard is CERN ..

You sure about that? We saved your ass from covid with an RNA vaccine , or did you inject yourself with bleach on your presidents instruction? Take a look at Oxford vs Harvard student demographics, the world's still coming here colonial.

This is exactly why I make fun of you guys so much on this topic: You're basically arguing for young earth creationism. That's really how dumb this argument is. The reason is quite simple: (NB: When I say we, I mean everybody but Europeans, and "you" plural, as in Europeans)

When we make gene edits, they're very specific and targeted, we know exactly what amino groups they encode for, and we well understand what the resulting proteins do well before they ever end up in a seed. When plants reproduce naturally however, there are all sorts of mutations and recombinations, by the millions, and we only have a vague idea what they do. But those are somehow "tested variants" to you, because it takes a European to think all things natural are always better.

Are you in bio tec? Do you actually work for Monsanto?

It's a good insight into European culture, we like natural. Maybe we have more respect for it being an older maybe wiser culture. The earth, human civilisation is a bloody good test scenario. To be old, being wise helps. We have a saying, from Yorkshire probably, that's where most of the pithy ones come from, if not then Scotland. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I already know food is your religion -- this isn't news to me at all.

Fuck yeah. You are what you eat. Come over, Ill cook you a Sheperd's pie and give you some warm beer. 8)

I have liked almost every American I've met by the way. I see them as the children of Europe, our young punk cousins. ;-) And Great nations people, we are related.

It's interesting when you guys say things like this, because McDonald's biggest, most profitable restaurant in the world is in France.

Mcdonalds are very good at localisation, it's very different in Europe. Want a Royale with Cheese? But I didnt know that, and that was an interesting fact. Thank you.

Comment Re:It was just ordinary research... (Score 1) 50

Yup local private models are the way to go. Trying to encourage the same in my gaff.

These AI companies are dependent on harvesting content, and their success in dross manufacture and copyright law suits they are defending prove that behaviour. The most obvious predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. Don't trust them with your content, it will be on chatGPT soon.

It's fascinating to watch the marketing narrative of AI. We need all content to make a Gen AI that will either save us or destroy us. Blind them with science and a baffling paradox.

It's also very capitalist fail stage. We had .com hype, social media, crypto, VR (Metaverse), and now LLM (AI). Capital loves internet hype, and when the end justifies the means, capital is always dumb, too single minded.

Comment Re: Hardly Re:"rocket ambition dept"? (Score 1, Interesting) 95

All of the current EV tech, including in China, is based on what Tesla has been doing since Elon took it over.

So what. Who cares? All tech is based on what someone else done before. Go China, if they can produce it better.

State intervention in capitalism, I'm up for that. I've got Amazon and Uber taking a ton of money out of my country reliant on my tax funded infrastructure, whilst paying as little wages and tax as they can and leaving me with the rubbish. Nuke them with tax and use it to fund British versions copying their model. Fuck em.

I admired Musk for offering up his patents. One of the best things he did to help us get greener. He's going through an asshole republican phase lately, hope it passes. Tesla started aiming at a high performance market, maybe it wasn't about green much and more about being smug green, torque and self drive. I guess they started way to late on a green Volkswagen, a people's car. They shouldn't be moaning about their own strategy.

China does do somethings better, that's OK, remember its on the backs of a knackered, aging labour force and we wouldn't want to live there. One advantage of a command economy is you can make big, unilateral decisions and they have leaned into robots and automation to address aging workforce. We'll be copying them soon.

I don't know about GMO, I remember one of the criticisms was Monsanto, weren't they trying to push single germination seed ? Fuck that. That's just greedy and psycho led. The other concern was cross pollination and affect on ecosystem. These are valid in my mind, when dealing with big changes to old, critical systems, we don't understand fully. I don't know what "behind" means, planting or research? I doubt research for my country we are leader in bio tech, old university culture that people want.

Climates warming, I favour at least trying growing established, tested variants from hotter countries rather than rolling dice on genetics. Food is culturally very important to Europeans, especially the French, that's an old human instinct I trust. There maybe a different attitude in fast food America, profit always seem to come first.

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