Comment Re:And the US? (Score 2) 215
It's almost ironic that this is reported the same week as journalists in the US getting visits from FBI agents for reporting about security concerns with the new Air Force One....
When you're arguing about whether the problem is worse in US or Germany, you're admitting there's a problem.
I'm the first to admit that defining defining the limits of someones freedom can never be without problems. Yet they need to be defined, because you can't have that freedom at the cost of someone elses freedom.
I even went through the examples and commented on which of those I see as a problem, too (Pimmelgate) and which I don't see as a problem (cases of simple and clear insults). That's simply blown out of proportion.
Maybe because someone is doing exactly what you said I was doing: Pointing at someone elses problem to make your problem look smaller....
Formally, what's happening in Germany is enforcing existing laws against insults, libel and slander.
Formally, what's happening in Germany where you can't express your opinion that someone is bad is destruction of free speech.
I have good news for you: You can.
But no fair and meaningful political debate or discussion (what is the actual goal freedom of speech needs to protect) can come from insults or hate. Sou you need to do it without those.
I don't think any of these are legal in the US either.
They aren't, but just calling someone names is slander in Germany, where in the US it's an expression of opinion. Also, in the US fact is an absolute defense against slander and libel. It doesn't matter if your intent is to cause someone financial harm, for example; if you are doing it with facts then it's legal, because expressing facts is legal.
Good news again: In Germany facts aren't slander or libel either.