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Submission + - A mini-data center in your back yard?

NewtonsLaw writes: According to this story, US homebuilder PulteGroup has plans to equip new homes with a mini-data center so as to relieve the need to build and power much larger tradtional centers.

The article states the company "it can install 8,000 XFRA units about six times faster and at five times lower cost than the construction of a typical centralized 100 megawatt data center of the same size"

Could this be the solution to at least some of the problems hindering the roll-out of greater data-center capacity for AI systems?

Comment Mine still works too. (Score 1) 180

and towards the end I got one of the low-profile USB-powered drives.

Got of those, too (the early USB 1 ones, with the exposed ATAPI connector. I ended up buying Iomega's Firewire expansion that attaches on the back of the slim USB and latches on that ATAPI connector, as Firewire 400 had much better bandwidth than USB 1, provided enough power and thus required only a single cable, and I had a cheap Firewire 400 adapter laying around from some video project (funily: the Firewire 400 card was a free bundle bundled with some crappy movie software that was selling poorly and was on heavy sale at the shop I bought it from. Threw the useless CD, kept the Firewire card).

Actually I still have all three of them in storage now I think, and since one is USB I might be able to theoretically recover any data I have on disks still.

Mine still works too. The most difficult was trying to find the barrel power plug (since back in the days I was mostly using the Firewire attachment and because Firewire provides enough power, I wasn't using the barrel jack much. Nowadays most of my machine are USB only.

Zip drives were great when I first got into it

Yup. The slim USB were also a good solution to carry data around.
Bring the slim USB and the cables at the university, download shit with the fast bandwidth, then bring the drive back home, plug into the Firewire attachment and load it onto the computer.
Later the university aquired computers (from Dell) that came with ZIP IDE drive built in, so I only carried the Zip250 disks and kept the drive permanently plugged into the Firewire attachement. And almost lost the power barrel adapter as mentioned above.

Comment Bank note detection. (Score 1) 139

Photocopiers implemented bank note detection to prevent users copying them, as did scanner software and apps like Photoshop.

Yes, that ass-backward approach came in my mind.
Your bank notes are too easy to copy now that color photocopiers and color laser printers are a thing?
- Rest of the world: make better banknotes (see swiss money, euros, etc.)
- USA: make bank note detection software mandatory on each piece of tech (HP and other US manufacturers have a boner at the thoughts of the sudden illegalness of cheaper competitors from countries without that function) and also mandate yellow dot tracking (now in addition the police-state is having a boner, too) (*).
- Rest of the world: why the hell is my color cartridge constantly empty on yellow and why is this preventing my to print even black and white?

Same here:
USA: has a problem of violence, bonkers level of gun proliferation, on tops of tons of ways to make life shitty for everyone (lack of proper health care, social welfare, etc.)
also the USA: lets add "gun detectors" to 3D printers so nobody prints a gun without a serial number. Surely that's the best solution to address all of the above, right?

I would imagine that 3D printer manufacturers will comply by adding some largely ineffective code to their apps that blocks known gun designs.

Trouble is that this time, most 3D manufacturers ARE NOT in the USA.
Most of them are in China, and the US is only a fraction of their exports, and the required function requires magnitude more compute power to implement than the tiny micro-controller that is usually found in those printers and implementing would require massively driving up the cost of the printer.
Chance are high that the manufacturer will just say f-u, and merely just stop selling complete pre-assembled kit to the USA, only stuff that can circumvent the restrictions (e.g., kits with only motor and drivers that require adding a sold-separately microcontroller).

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(*): fun fact: on some printers (E.g. with very low memory) those "functionnalities" were implemented in the drivers instead.
My ancient HP color lasterjet works this way. There are no yellow dot when I print from CUPS.

It's entirely possible that the "gun detection" is going to be the same: crappy buggy detection +additional privacy invading tracking implemented into the management software shipped next to the 3D printer as the MCU cannot handle that. Circumventable by downloading Octoprint from some european server and running that on a Pi to manage the printers.

Comment And complexity (Score 3, Informative) 87

the selection of a 40 year old 6502 application is interesting,

Not even the application, just a 120 byte-long binary patch.

It may however help if someone identifies a small digestable chunk as security relevant and set it about the task of dealing withi t.

And that chunk doesn't have any weirdness that requires a seasoned and actually human reverse-engineer.
(Think segmented memory model on anything pre "_64" of the x86 family - the kind of madness that can kill Ghidra).

Also, if it's not from the 8bit era or the very early 16bit era, chances are high that this bit of machine code didn't start as hand-written assembler but some higher-level compiled language (C most likely). It might be better to run Ghidra on it and have some future ChatBot trained on making sense of that decompiled code.

In short there so many thousands of blockers that have been carefully avoided by going to that 40 year old 120-byte long patch of 6502 binary.

Comment Good example of why it's wrong (Score 4, Insightful) 87

But what if you had a similarly loose platform but it's running a kiosk and that kiosk software is purportedly designed to keep the user on acceptable rails.

There is a lot of leverage done by the "similarly".

Apple's computers run on 6502.
This was an insanely popular architecture. It's been used in metric shit tons of other hardware from roughly that era. There are insane amounts of resource about this architecture. It was usually programmed in assembly. There has been a lot of patching of binaries back then. These CPUs have also been used in courses and training for a very long time, most of which are easy to come by. So there's an insane amount of material about 6502 instructions , their binary encoding, and general debugging of software on that platform that could be gobbled by the training of the model. The architecture is also extremely simple and straightforward with very little weirdness. It could be possible for something that boils down to a "next word predictor" to not fumble too much.

Anything developed in the modern online era, where you would be interested in finding vulnerabilities is going to be multiple order of magnitude more complex (think more multiple megabytes of firmware not a 120 bytes patch), rely on very weird architecture (a kiosk running on some x86 derivative? one of the later embed architecture that uses multiple weird addressing mode?) and very poorly documented.

Also combine this with the fact that we're very far into the "dimishing returns" part of the AI development, where each minute improvement requires even vastly more resources (insanely large datacenter, power requirement of entire cities) and more training material than available (so "habsburg AI" ?), it's not going to get better easily.

The fact that a chat bot can find a fix a couple of grammar mistake in a short paragraph of English doesn't mean it could generate an entire epic poem in a some dead language like Etruscan (not Indo-European, not that many examples have survived, even less Etruscan-Latin or -Greek bilingual texts have survived to assist understanding).
The fact that a chat bot successfully reverse engineered and debugged a 120-byte snipped of one of the most well studied architecture doesn't mean it will easilly debug multi-mega bytes firmware of some obscure proprietary microcontroller.

Comment HDD lifecycle (Score 2) 97

harddrives have a finite service life

Correct.
For typical enterprise-grade drive, warranty are in the 5 to 10 years range.
So you can expect them to last that many years at minimum.

So if the bubble pops in 18months as was suggested in the post above, those drives will even still be under warranty, and definitely have quite some life left in them.

and those used in cloud providers are recycled not resold or reused.

...by an normally operating company, where there's somebody who will be held accountable for whatever happens with these drives: yes.
(They'll most likely destroy the drives to avoid any hassle regarding confidentiality, then recycle)

BUT, when a company goes bust, and everybody got laid off, nobody will be around to take care that proper procedures are followed and each drive has a drill shatter its plates. There's no employee left that could be held accountable if the drives "end up in the wrong hands".
Instead the company's assets will be acquired by some debt collector (who isn't bound to the same procedures of data handling), and liquidated in any way that would allow the investors to claw some money back.
That's how you end up with proprietary game dev kits on e-bay after some studio goes bankrupt.

At best there will be a proper bankruptcy auction, and the company handling the liquidation might even put some nomial effort in erasing the drives before putting them on sale.
At worst, everything will be sold by the kilograme to some scrapper, who'll find and single out any valuable to put on eBay like the drives. These will be probably sold as-is with their data content left untouched.

The big buyers are AWS, Google and Azure

The big ones, yes.

But currently there's a whole zoo of newer companies that specialize in building AI datacenters exclusively. Those one will almost definitely go belly up once the bubble bursts.
Of course the big three will try to salvage whatever is trivial to acquire and re-use in the subsequent firesale (buy a whole warehouse including the convenient palettes of easy to reuse hardware abandonned in there). But whatever is too cumbersome to buy will go to the scrappers and end-up on ebay.

if you expect any of them to go bankrupt anytime in the next decade I have a bridge to sell you.

Side note:
I don't know, but Microsoft seems to be on spree to enshitify and run into the ground pretty much everything they produce. (see controversies around Windows 11's unwanted features (Copilot, Recall, etc.), Europe's unease with Microsoft's ability to spy and/or cut you off Office 365 (see: ICC), and similar dumpster fires).
I don't promise anything, but there's a slight chance they run out of profitable businesses to subsidise all their failing ones at some point in the comming decades.

Comment Also, applications on Linux on ARM.... (Score 1, Insightful) 157

Also, from the article:

Linux just doesn't feel fully ready for ARM yet. A lot of applications still aren't compiled for ARM, so software support ends up being very hit or miss

ROFLMFAOzors.

There has been Linux distros on ARM hardware with vast selection of software available for ages. At no point in the past half decade of using ARM-based hardware Linux have I run into "doesn't work on ARM".
Actually, quite the opposite in my experience: the open source world has been very fast at adopting new arches (e.g. ARM, or more recently RISC-V) or newer extensions: x86_64 was available of Linux distributions almost immediately (among other: thanks to experience accumulated in previous ports to UltraSPARC, MIPS64, etc.) at a time when "Windows XP 64bits" was a very crashy and useless joke, with barely any drivers.

I suppose this person was disappointed that they can't download a bunch of proprietary binaries downloaded off corporate websites? Or rely heavily on some containerized software only provided for x86_64? (e.g.: some flatpak-ed prorietary software)

Or basically just don't know their way around Linux in general? (A quick look at the titles on their channel: Yup, the presenter openly admits being a linux newb and only recently started experimenting with Fedora)

Comment Process, Not silicon (AI will make this worse) (Score 2, Interesting) 157

That's because Apple Silicon is really efficient, especially if you take energy consumption into account.

Mostly due merely because Apple used to hog the finest process(*) available at TSMC (e.g. producing their M chips on "3nm" process while AMD uses "5nm" for their flagship), not as much due to some magic design skills.

And BTW, with the current AI bubble, this advantage of Apple is going to evaporate as now the silicon fabs are going to prioritize buyers with even more (investors', not income) money to burn on the latest and bestest processes. Within a year or so, you could expect the "really efficient, especially if you take energy consumption into account" title will go to some custom AI chipsets by Nvidia and co (server CPUs, datacenter GPUs and NPUs, rack's ultra-high bandwidth interconnects, etc.) mass-produced on crazy scale to fill the "promised" continent-spanning datacenters that the big AI companies accounce in their arm's race to outcompete each-other exaflops-wise; and Apple will slide back to "Yet another CPU manufacturer".

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(*) note: that still partially(**) explains the high price...
(**) note: but Apple still has ginormous margins compared to the cost of parts.

Comment People will die (Score 4, Interesting) 116

This outrageous level of paranoia over "alleged" drone sightings will cost human lives soon.

Here we have the US military mis-identifying a party balloon as a drone and firing a powerful laser at it -- while members of the public get prosecuted every year for flicking their laser-pointers at helicopters and airliners.

In Germany, police will be allowed to shoot at "alleged" drones even though it has been clearly proven that most (if not all) of the recent drone sightings were simply mis-identified aircraft lights.

Can anyone see the potential for disaster here?

The mis-identification of aircraft flying at night as "drones" has become rife, dating back beyond the NY/NJ "drone" incidents that caused such concern in the USA a year or two ago. Almost without exception, these "drones" are real aircraft (often passenger flights) carrying people through the skies. How long before one of them is shot down by paranoid trigger-happy idiots?

Paranoia is a mental health issue and it's infecting governments and authorities around the world.

Before someone says "but... Ukraine..." I ask you: how many people have died as the result of actions by bad actors using drones in the USA or outside the war zones in Europe?

That's a big fat ZERO!

Yes, it "could" happen but right now it's far more likely that innocent people will die from friendly fire produced by paranoid idiots on the ground with guns and lasers.

Comment No lying around (Score 1) 67

You're right being sarcastic:

I'm sure they had 40 billion worth of bitcoin lying around and managed to transfer it to actual other bitcoin accounts without anyone noticing.

Nope, they didn't have 620'000 BTCs (more like 50'000 BTC, mentionned elsewhere in the discussions).

They didn't make actual transaction on the blockchain giving out 620'000 to some random bitcoin account.

They just accidentally wrote +620'000 BTC in the database that manages the exchange (which tracks the internal state of who is selling how much to whom).
So suddenly some user was supposed to be in possession of 620'000 BTCs on the exchange according to the web interface, even if the exchange never saw the number of BTCs it holds according to the blockchain ledger go magically up by that number.

Comment Not on the blockchain (Score 1) 67

That's a lot of bitcoin to possess.

That's merely a big number in some database.

Wait, how does the blockchain even allow you to spend what you don't have?

Because this thing is not technically on the blockchain.

The transactions happening on the blockchain are between your own self-managed wallet and the exchange's infrastructure.
(A banking metaphor: Think you getting cash from your pocket and inserting it in the ATM input slot)

The transactions on the exchange are just internal number keeping by the exchange's software stack to keep track of who has how much and oews how much to whom.
(A banking metaphor: when you send money between accounts, e.g., when you use e-banking to pay somebody at the same bank, there is nobody moving actual wads of dollar bills and coins between vault, instead the bank just updates some numbers in their database and now they know you have less and somebody else has more)

Now this is where the banking metaphor breaks: actual real-world banks are extremely regulated and have to pass some high standard to still be licensed as bank, and because of that great effort are put making sure that the database is coherent, that the numbers corresponds to what is metaphorically in their vault.
Nobody would just get magically "+40 billion bucks" on their account due to a mistake.

Meanwhile I wouldn't be surprise if some of the code involved here was vibe coded.
What happened is the exchange did by mistake write "+620'000 BTC" in their database even if they never controlled that much in their actual wallet/there was never that much BTCs according to the blockchain ledger.

Enough recipients sought to sell or withdraw bitcoin that the market sank 17%, before Bithumb halted transactions after roughly 30 minutes.

(emphasis mine).

So some people decided to be clever and run away as fast as possible with the money (have it transfered out of the exchange).
Except that even if the exchange's database says these users "possess" 620'000 BTCs, the exchange only actually has 50'000 BTCs according to the ledger, so this has very likely set off some warning of dubious or impossibly high sum being requested for withdrawal, leading the exchange to freeze everything before their actual 50'000 being fleeced.

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