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Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 4, Interesting) 466

Lets start with Government, unless you're a "frothing at the mouth" Libertarian like me (and from your Post history here, you're not "frothing), you're misunderstanding the use of Hyperbole. Which seems to be all the rage. Hence the over the top REAL LIFE examples or late.

Seems like every day I hear another liberal talking about how RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTIONS and another Conservative talking about how TERRORISTS KILLED EVERYONE.

What nobody seems to be talking about is how Americans are being spied upon by the dark shadow government and being outed when politically expedient. We all should be terrified by that knowledge.

And once you realize the Government is spying on you, ATT/Verizon spying makes even more sense. Who do you think BigTelCo is spying for?

Again we've already lost the war, this is just mop up stuff to tie any loose ends that might have slipped through. Nothing to see here ... move along.

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 0, Troll) 466

You're okay with powerful government already busted several times for spying on Americans, but should BigTelCo do it, you're OUTRAGED!!!! Or are you outraged that big government that is spying on you wants to use the proxies to spy on you even more? Oh wait, you don't care about Big Government spying on you, because RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTIONS and TRUMP IS EVIL got your goat?

We've already lost the war, this is just a mop up battle for the remaining bits of resistance out there.

Comment Re:Democrats (Score 3, Insightful) 466

Bush put in Patriot, Obama campaigned on repealing it, and made it actually worse. Spying on Americans is now okay, because even though we've caught them red handed a number of different times, nobody is trying to stop them because "TERRORISTS!!!!!" .

If you vote for either of the two major parties, I hope you like your tyranny, for there is almost no functional difference on the major issues.

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 5, Insightful) 466

Yes, Facebook already sees your other Webtraffic, because it has the ad networks bugged to track you. Google does. All of them do.

You aren't anonymous unless you're on Tor and using Incognito Mode all the time. The internet works by sharing who you are with everyone interested. Or did you think that the price on Amazon is what everyone sees?

If you don't want the government tracking you, go offgrid. Though I hear that is illegal in some places.

Comment Re:Exactly that (Score 1) 347

I didn't mean to make it sound that bleak. The first 8 hours are ok. They're productive. I don't sit here tearing my hair out doing nothing waiting for everyone to leave so I can type. I actually don't mind the open office plan very much. A private office would be *much* better, but this is ok.

But when I do work over for an hour or two I like it a whole lot more. I'm not terribly social (yeah I know, a computer programmer that's not terribly social go figure). I like to code in the dark and with a perfect quiet around me. It's much more pleasant and I seem to get a lot more done. Or maybe not - maybe I just enjoy it so much it feels like I get more done.

Comment Re:As opposed to? (Score 1) 33

The ACA was the largest government handout to industry in possibly the history of government.

That's a a very narrow view. Guess you're middle-class, huh?

The GOP would have happily voted in favor of it if only the white house were occupied by a republican; they opposed it because they didn't want a democrat to get credit for health care reform.

Events from the last 2 weeks would seem to undercut that argument quite a bit.

but the bill did largely the opposite of that.

There are, at minimum, 24 million of your fellow countrymen who think that argument is full of shit.

He gave the GOP the bill they wanted.

That's a bizarre statement to make, considering that not one single solitary GOP congresscritter voted for its passage.

Comment Exactly that (Score 5, Insightful) 347

I'm out of mod points or I'd mod you up.

My two cents - we have an open office plan where I work. So I like to stay after hours and work. Why? Because the lights are off, I don't have to listen to people milling around me all the time having conversations about the weather or last Sunday's game. Just me and the work I have to do. No distractions. It's blissful.

I can get more done in 2 hours like that than the previous 8.

Comment Re:As opposed to? (Score 1) 33

rather that the democratic response to it was

Yeah, HUAC sure was contentious at the time...

They were only allowed to be cowards from that point onward, even when they had "power".

I used to fall for that analogy, but really it's the difference between a party that believes that democratic governments are a good thing vs. a party that thinks the private sector ought to do everything but defense. But sure, they're cowards.

That doesn't change the fact that what was passed in 2009 was in no small part influenced by the Heritage Foundation and their own requirement for an individual mandate.

That's not what we're arguing here.

Except that Obama was willing to sign damned near any piece that crossed his desk,

Would love a cite on this considering everything that's been written about this topic ad nauseam is that this was an issue close to Obama's heart, and unlike Trump, him and his team spent an inordinate amount of time haggling and dealing with the Dems in Congress (and trying and failing same with the GOP side).

Are you suggesting then that the heritage foundation document on the heritage foundation server that calls for an individual mandate is somehow not the heritage foundation calling for an individual mandate?

Another point we're not arguing.

Comment Re:As opposed to? (Score 1) 33

I will point out that the GOP pretty well took control of the meaning of "Un-American" and applied it to everything they didn't like starting on Sept 12 2001

No no no. American conservatives have been calling American liberals all kinds of traitorous names since the late 40s. This has been going on the entire modern era.

The democrats wrote it to make the Heritage Foundation happy

Also incorrect. As I've pointed out numerous times, health care reform was a major topic of discussion during both of W's terms, as it was clearly understood that the current health system (both government and private) were headed for disaster. You then "lucked" out that Obama came in 2008 with an idea to make it his signature legislation. As for Obacamare being a lightly remixed version of The Heritage Foundation plan everyone loves talking about, they couldn't be more different.

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