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Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 141

If I am going to consult I can save customers money by using the pro version.

I never said it would save money, per se. Although it might. Depending on how the per user enterprise licensing actually works out when it comes to VMs, desktops, laptops etc.

From what I read here from slashdotters the pro version has no GPO support whatsoever, all commercials that take up full screen ads, all updates forced with no settings, etc. I have news? I own 10 pro! I see nothing of the sorts other than tinfoil hats getting +5s.

I own it too, several copies (6+ at least in my household). I never said it didn't support GPOs or anything. And you are right, so far other than telemetry and some issues with updates, all the nonsense can be turned off. But I'm tired of rebooting my PC after a big update having to find some new crap that needs to be turned off on all my computers.

Out-of-the box my start menu was full of crud, it wanted me to sign up for a microsoft account, and cortanta wanted to shove msn celebrity news gossip down my throat, and suggest app store apps... when I was searching for files on my local computer. Ok, no problem, I turned all that crap off and every single personalization/advertising/privacy sucking setting I could find -- all 2 pages worth on the settings off, off, off, off, off.... and I installed spybot anti-telemetry to deal with the one item MS wasn't giving me the proper option for. I am mostly fine with automatic updates, so those weren't a deal breaker for me. And then I was happy with the desktop... a nice incremental upgrade over 7 with some cool features like hyperV and desktop workspaces etc.

Then a month later, another update, I come downstairs to find my lock screen is a full screen ad for some nonsense. So now I turn that off on all my computers. Then a month later, another update, and I click the windows logo and "Get Facebook - featured app!" has been added to my start menu. So now I have turn that off this new "Suggest featured apps to me on my startmenu" setting on all my computers.

The anniversary update likewise botched a few things -- reset Edge back to the default, and put the app store icon back on my taskbar. (Although the edge thing sounds like a bug... or at least that's their story...)

My complaint isn't that i can't turn this adware stuff off, because I can (so far). My complaint is that its being pushed on me turned on in the first place. And my understanding has been that enterprise customers are getting treated better and that these adware updates aren't being defaulted on for them. So they don't have to waste their time fixing this crap that NOBODY wants. And longer term there seems to be a pattern emerging, and coupled with the 'Windows 10 is the last version' and 'all future upgrades will be free....' I think it's reasonable to be suspicious that the consumer platform is steadily heading towards 'ad supported', so I'm looking at the enterprise platform where I'm still the customer. Maybe its not time to cut over from pro to enterprise just yet... but 2, 3, 4, 5 years from now? It seems pretty plausible to me.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 141

I don't disagree with you. The trouble is that I'm finding pro is steadily becoming more 'managed by microsoft' than 'managed by me', and increasingly it's becoming an 'ad delivery platform'; given Microsofts positioning of Windows 10 as the 'last version of windows' and continually supported and updated for free... I read that as with Windows 10 "You're going to be the product now. Not the customer".

So while I get the 'features' like hyperV and GPO etc... I don't get enough control over stuff like the updates, telemetry, store, and each update i find new nonsense to turn off .. "like suggested apps" and lock screen advertising. And I know the enterprise version is generally exempt from this crud by default.

With the enterprise edition the relationship is still: "You are the customer."

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 141

You're not a 'power user' if you're looking for ways to buy yourself out of abuse.

The only 'abuse' I'm buying my way out of is the telemetry. And I agree that

The ability to manage my own updates is definitely something non-experts are terrible at, and need to have managed for them. I'm glad clueless idiots can't run around with unpatched systems anymore, not because they have any reason to avoid a patch... they just hit cancel every day straight for the last 3 years because they wanted to check facebook. And then completely disabled UAC because some antique label printing software needed them to run as administrator but rather than just 'run as administrator' they disabled UAC entirely...

Those people need their OS to just slap them forward.

And features like hyperV, RDP, and the reset of the stuff that pro/enterprise versions feature are all stuff the regular consumer doesn't know about, never mind actively uses.

You're Microsoft's bitch. Better have daddy's money on time. And get ready to get slapped around anyway, because that's how daddy keeps his bitches in line.

Cute, but the metaphor breaks down because while the consumer OS whether pro or home continually makes you feel like you are fighting for control -- paying enterprise customers get treated like... well...actual customers. The enterprise OS actually does what they want.

Comment Re:State sponsored corporate spies (Score 1) 404

It's wrong to discriminate against a group due to a statistics that doesn't say anything about that group, I give you that.

What does the statistic say? The essence is "most financial fraudsters are white males". It is NOT permissible to turn it around and say "white males commit financial fraud". It is not even permissible to say "white males are more prone to commit financial fraud than other groups of people". Because a crucial element is missing: The population. What such conclusions omit is taking into account what fraction of people who are in a position to commit financial fraud are white males. When you take that into account, you will come to the result that the vast majority of people who are in this position are white males. So anything but finding that the majority of financial fraudsters being white males would actually be a surprise.

Statistics have no agenda. Statistics just is. Unfortunately, it is easy to abuse statistics if you do. And even more unfortunately, people believe statistics because it's just numbers without an agenda, and people do not understand statistics and how it may be used to draw conclusions.

Comment Re:Micro$slop requires virtualization? Really? (Score 1) 141

This.

That's the, what now, 4th? time that MS is promising that its browser will be sandboxed and virtualized and whatnot. Guess what: They managed to botch it every single time.

Wake me when they actually deliver, their promises are less credible than that of a politician or a religious figurehead.

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