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Comment Re:40 NVME ? (Score 1) 17

Storage people keep pushing the way it was done with fiber channel attached controllers abstracting things to generic block devices. Shared sas, fcoe, iscsi/iser... Have seen so many tries at bringing the concept and being ignored in favor of things like clustered filesystems and object store.

Clustered FS and Objectstore are built on top of SAS, FCOE, iSCSI, NVMe-OF. You first have to solve the problem of packing thousands of storage devices within the signal integrity radius of the transport medium before you can start abstracting. For NVMe that radius is about 1.5 - 2 meters from the CPU socket. SAS about 5 meters. Not sure on FC, I presume a couple km.

Just like hardware raid controllers are nearly non existent in nvme world

Completely common. Like 70% of all servers sold include a RAID controller that can talk to NVMe devices. But there's a catch... They suck so badly, nobody buys the PCIe cables to connect the backplanes. The inside joke is the best way to slow down your NVMe drives is to attach them to a RAID controller. Most NVMe drives use 4 PCIe lanes. Broadcom's RAID chips let them have two lanes. Then the RAID controller connects to the CPU with 16 lanes. So the minute you exceed 8 drives (via a switched backplane), you have an intractable bottleneck.

The Broadcom 3xxx chip hit the wall first as it still did RAID partially on the controller CPU. The 4116 implemented RAID entirely in silicon, the 51xx chips took this further with a complete cache redesign, and actually ditches SAS/SATA entirely. It's NVMe only. But nobody has solved the PCIe lane bottleneck.

Comment Re:40 NVME ? (Score 2) 17

How does 40 NVMEs fit in one PCIe bus?

Via a PCIe switch backplane. They've been around for a while... Perhaps as far back as 2012...

I fully expect SAS4 to be the end... NVMe-OF will replace SAS, and the drives will plug into the crazy 800GbE switches that are available now. Not on the drawing board... Now.

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Comment 3B1... (Score 1) 62

I got my hands on a 3B1 around 1990. Linux wasn't available of course, and a used Sun was just out of my reach. It was a giant box of suck. The most corporate version of Unix I've ever used. It made me pine away for the dialup guest account on Compupro's Unix Version 7 system in the east SF Bay back in the 80's...

Eventually I picked up a Sun 3/50, and later a 3/60. Then some kid in Finland posted on Usenet and well...

Comment Re:LOL! Good! (Score 3, Insightful) 39

100%

Kevin Rose killed digg. He took what was good and ruined it.

Reddit embodied what was good about Digg and ran away with the market share.

As long as Reddit doesn't fuck with their algo, and try to pull a "Kevin Rose" (not unlike what Tik Tok just did) it will be ok.

Fuck digg, and fuck Kevin. Go back to making videos where you pretend you're "edgy" because you have a 40oz in a brown paper bag.

Comment I don't know... (Score 1) 137

I don't actually know. My desktop runs Linux. I patch it a couple times a month perhaps, and grab a cup of coffee while it reboots.

But to the point of "Why hasn't it gotten faster", you have to understand what its doing. Servers have entire subsystems to inventory & boot, a modern Dell server has at least 3 OS'es (4 if you have an expander backplane) hiding under the hood before the one you see boots. So servers have a bit more stuff. But the fundamentals are the same for desktops & laptops. RAM and DDR training. Yes, PC's have gotten a lot faster. RAM has gotten a lot bigger, and more to the point we keep juicing more speed out of it. Getting DDR5 to hold on to the bus and emit a usable signal at 4800Mhz with signal integrity to travel 1 meter to the socket take a little bit of tuning.

Enjoy the cup of coffee.

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Comment Re:Other type 1 hypervisors (Score 2) 26

Quick question - are there any Type 1 hypervisors based on any of the BSDs, as opposed to Linux?

The BSD's use something called Bhyve. I was pretty stable on TrueNAS Core when I used it, but not very feature rich. I only ran Linux VM's, so don't consider this an endorsement.

https://bhyve.org/

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