Journal Timex's Journal: Does citizenship really matter? 9
I've got an extension of my last JE up. It can be found at http://tpau.chezsmith.com/wp/Bill/?p=47.
Feel free to post comments here or on the Blog. (If you're not keen on flipping between the two to post commentary here, just open the Blog entry in another window or tab... I know: you were going to do that anyway, right?
Couple things (Score:2)
Second, the Indonesian dual-citizenship issue is a false flag. From personal experience, I know dozens of people with more than one passport where one of those is from a country that 'officially' doesn't condone d
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Nation-states are obsolete anyway.
Actually they are an abomination, but they are absolutely essential to maintain a level of poverty for our present, and also abominable economic systems to function. "If there no poor people, who will do the work?"
Incorrect legal assumptions. (Score:2)
Turns out your assumptions about the loss of American citizenship are not correct. I was involved in a detailed conversation about this very topic over on Multiply [multiply.com] earlier this week.
The details are over there, but in summary the active law in this matter specifically states that a minor child cannot lose their status as a US Citizen due to nationalization actions taken on their behalf by the child's parents, and that "a person who having dual nationality sought the benefits of his non-United States national
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* obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
This is the very point that is questioned, though: WAS a young Barack Obama formally naturalized in Indonesia? I haven't heard anything one way or the other to refute the allegation in a court...
I noticed, though, that one court has tossed out one suit [myway.com] filed questioning Obama's citizenship. That's one down, with four remaining. The remaining suits are in each of Hawaii, Utah, Washington State, and (I believe) Kentucky.
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"This is the very point that is questioned, though: WAS a young Barack Obama formally naturalized in Indonesia?"
Sorry I wasn't clear. Please note that in quoting the State Department site, I was unable (within a blockquote) to correctly capture their emphasis on the act being Specific, Voluntary, and With Intent. This is a very important emphasis.
My point is that the law states it does not matter if he was naturalized as an Indonesian citizen by his parents, because that could not strip him of his status a
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Another thing we have to keep in mind is that the parties who are "stirring up doubts" are quoting an order passed in 1940. Like a lot of orders passed during the war years, it was unconstitutional. Ask all the Japanese-Americans whose parents or grandparents were imprisoned.
It's VERY hard to lose your citizenship. Countries don't like giving up potential tax payers.
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To clarify, "It's VERY hard to lose your citizenship" accidentally. (Looks to be pretty easy to lose on purpose, but there's paperwork to fill out and sign.)
The interesting twist to US citizenship that I learned is that it's guaranteed by the fourteenth amendment*. The reason so many people have won citizenship disputes in the modern era is that the courts have interpreted citizenship as being elevated thereby to a constitutional right, making it almost untouchable by Congress. Therefore most any statute ca
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If you look at the previous discussion about this, I pretty much did a hatchet job on it. It's obvious that the complaint was prepared by someone else, leaving out Obamas' name, and they found a useful idiot to file it after doing a search-and-replace, and adding his own extra text. For example, you can see many p
Citizen requirements? (Score:1)
Whatever it takes to keep Ahnold [loscuatroojos.com] out of the white house...