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Comment Re:Oh dear (Score 1) 742

Restaurants aren't a relevant example because wait staff can't be sent offshore. What are they going to do, set up a call center and have folks call their orders in? This is an example of automation being cheaper than American labor, not Chinese labor. This isn't a good thing, it's a problem we'd do well to focus on rather than engaging in a trade war with no winning outcome. And forcing companies to bring manufacturing back will lead to faster adoption of automation in existing facilities as they look to standardize, resulting in the loss of additional jobs.

On the iPhone, are you not aware that it competes with other smartphones? I'm not sure why you think it won't sell less when the price goes up. There's nothing that people don't have any choice in. Besides that, without trade agreements, what exactly would stop China from making their own iPhones? They could do it just to spite us, and we'd have no recourse.

You'll have to elaborate on that. I don't get it. Why would Peru stop exporting zinc to us because we stopped buying Chinese goods?

You're right, as long as you ignore the rest of that paragraph. I said we'd need to stop imports from all cheap labor countries, because unless we do that Americans will just continue to choose the cheaper imports over the American made goods. This isn't a theory, the whole reason everything is made offshore is that we choose to buy the cheap stuff every day. That means Peru, which exports about $8 billion in goods to the US every year including a lot of high end clothing made by children, would have their economy negatively impacted. They might even enjoy cutting us off, since they have a trade deficit with us and our deficit with China is such a bad thing, right? If that's not enough, you'd be interested to know that China currently supplies the vast majority of rare earth elements, stuff we need for our beloved iPhones. I'm sure we can find other sources, but at the very least we're going to need to raise prices to cover it. And those sources probably won't be other cheap labor countries, since we can't be buying their stuff any more.

It's obvious there's problems with our trading relationships with some folks, China included, the thing people need to realize is that we can't just demand what we want and expect our trade partners to hand it over without getting anything in return.

Comment Re:Oh dear (Score 1) 742

I am not even sure about that.

Many companies find themselves forced to go to China for manufacturing. The US and Europe simply don't have the production capacity to meet the goals in a timely manner.

Their production capacity is a result of their long-term status as a manufacturing hub. If labor in the US were as cheap as it were in China for the past couple hundred years, all those factories could have been built here instead. To suggest production can't be brought back into the USA is pessimistic nonsense, it can, it's just not cost effective. Do I think it'll be good for business? No, absolutely not. I'm just saying it's possible.

Comment Re:Oh dear (Score 1) 742

Well, two other options.. raise the prices, or use more automation.

Um, raising the prices is exactly what would increase the cost of living, it's another option it's what I described... And if automation were cheaper than Chinese labor, business would have already gone that route, so again this leads to an increase in the cost of goods which is an increase in the cost of living.

That really depends on how well the locally produced goods continue to compete internationally.

Right, and with the cost to manufacture guaranteed to increase, the retail price will increase as well. There's not a lot of room for radical improvements in most products that can be implemented cheaply to increase the value of locally produced goods alongside the price. They will not be competitive in an international market where folks can continue to get cheaply made items from other countries. Stopping American companies from producing goods as cheaply as possible will not do anything to stop foreign companies from doing so. If there were room for an increase in quality that wouldn't just be matched by foreign companies cheaper, it might be a different story, but even if there were it would mean that while manufacturing costs increase companies also need to increase R&D spending to come up with some new breakthrough that'll give them an edge, all to make buying more expensive products worthwhile.

Now, I'm assuming this would go alongside a total ban on consumer goods imports from all countries, otherwise there would be nothing stopping even Americans from just buying the cheap imports (which is what we've already chosen to do, no reason to stop) from some other country. There won't be a lot of motivation left for anyone to sell us the raw materials we need to make any of our high quality goods and there's only so much you can dig up here... You see where this is going, right? A total shitshow. The US does not exist in a bubble, our economy does not survive without other countries. I don't believe in any sort of world government type of thing, but we'd all do well to realize that the economy is a global thing, we measure statistics by country but no first world country's economy is independent, what's bad for one of us is bad for all of us.

Comment Re:Oh dear (Score 2) 742

They did give something up, it's called quality of life. We can manufacture all the cheap shit they do, too, we just need to give up clean air, clean water, spacious homes, etc...

Really, though, even if Trump cuts off China completely, any increase in employment here will be offset by an increased cost of living as we pay for much more expensive labor than we had been. It's probably also worth noting that most economists believe that if China stops buying US bonds it'll lead to a recession. The simple fact is our economies depend on each other, and that's what this threat is about. Trump said "We're gonna screw China!" and China responded with, "Well we're gonna screw you right back!"

Comment Re:Oh dear (Score 4, Informative) 742

You seem to have this backwards. China isn't saying they'll stop making things, they are saying they'll stop buying things. Here's a thing that will help you figure out why this is an issue:

I don't know why people didn't see this coming. I suspect a lot of Americans have a rude awakening in store regarding our position in the world.

Comment Re:Non removable battery FTW (Score 2) 150

Are you suggesting companies should develop and produce products that they expect only a small minority of the market will have any interest in over products with broader appeal? Ignorance is rife.

If it's not a selling point for most people, it's not as profitable a pursuit as that which is a selling point for most people. This isn't rocket science. As I said, you can still purchase a phone with a replaceable battery so for the few people that want it it's there, but you can't expect them to make an alternate version of every phone just for you and the six other people who care enough to not buy the phone with a built-in battery.

Comment Re:Non removable battery FTW (Score 3, Interesting) 150

I see a lot of people saying they'd prefer a phone with a removable battery. Here's the thing: They exist, you have that option, everyone does and nobody takes it. Phones with removable batteries don't sell very well and that's why you don't see them advertised all over the place nor do you see manufacturers trying to pack in more features when it's not worth the effort for them. I know, everyone wants to believe the lack of removable batteries is so you'll be forced to replace your phone due to a dead battery instead of getting a new battery. I am going to tell you what my S/O who has sold this stuff for the last decade has told me repeatedly: They made a lot more selling extra batteries than they do selling replacement phones, there has been no notable increase in the rate at which people replace phones while we've made the move to non-removable batteries, and it's actually less common that people come in with complaints about their battery now than before as batteries now typically work well for as long as the average consumer uses their phone. It's also worth pointing out that, back when replaceable batteries were common, folks would often complain about the short lifespan of their batteries claiming they were being forced to buy replacements just to keep their phone on for a day at a time.

I know, I've been using the same phone for years, too. I could use a replaceable battery as mine is not holding a charge the way it used to. We are the minority, most folks don't suffer many ill effects from not being able to replace the battery in their phone. This situation is a fluke, and even after this you will only see a very small minority of folks talking about the need for replaceable batteries. The vast majority of consumers don't care about replaceable batteries and wouldn't really benefit from them.

Comment Re: Heals (Score 1) 596

I didn't say only women, I said "most women." The suggestion of "most people" is intended to include "most women," correct? The fact that you somehow interpreted my statement as "women are the only ones who put fashion before safety" is intriguing and rather telling. See how twisting things is stupid and pointless? It twists both ways, every time.

Comment Re: Heals (Score 1, Insightful) 596

Winner: Most foolish statement of the day. If you are choosing to wear footwear that impedes your ability to drive so you can be fashionable, you need to rethink your priorities before you kill someone just so you can look nice. And if youre suggesting most women put fashion before safety, Id suggest youre at least as sexist as anyone I know.

Comment PET is already very recyclable (Score 5, Informative) 75

PET is one of those plastics that's very easy to recycle already, people just don't do it. And I mean really easy to recycle, I make and sell poker chips that are made largely out of recycled bottles (that's PET) and any bad part can simply be ground up and thrown back in the hopper so the material is used again. Obviously there's a little more to recycling used bottles and whatnot, but the point is it's already really easy to recycle PET compared to many other materials. While I understand this isn't the same as nature being able to break it down, I don't understand what the big benefit to this over standard recycling. There is a much larger problem when it comes to recycling and that's the willing participation of the general population. Where I live we get fined for failing to sort recyclables, and people still don't do it. Solving that seems more important if you ask me.

Comment Re:Prepare for hipster onslaught in 3..2.. (Score 1) 542

You have it backwards. It's been a long time since Apple fanbois have come out to defend Apple with anywhere near the zeal MS fanbois attack them with. It's getting a little weird at this point, guys. Look at all the posts here, I see a ton of people talking shit about Apple and everyone who uses them, and then like one post stating some basic facts that suggest Oculus just dropped cross-platform support altogether for other reasons. Or does Linux only run on potatoes?

Don't get me wrong, it's been a decade since I purchased an Apple computer for my home, but MS users go after Apple users non-stop as if their livelihoods depend on it, and nobody seems to notice the Apple crowd decided to sit in smug silence years ago. They laugh at you for making fun of them choosing a brand, when in fact they chose something they like and you're the one judging based on a brand name you think is cool or uncool. Seriously, the joke's not on the Apple users anymore.

As for the Rift not running on Apple computers, does anyone really care? When I was primarily using Apple computers, it was largely because I wasn't gaming. I still use them for work but we all accepted years ago that Windows is the most convenient gaming platform. Sure, you can get as much power out of a Mac and Luckey is just being a dick here, but it is generally less convenient. Real story here: Palmer Luckey is atleast as much of a judgemental dick as anyone you'll meet on the street today.

Comment Re:Let it go already (Score 1) 117

Perhaps you're unaware that going from kindergarten to graduating high school takes thirteen years, and another four for college makes seventeen years, so limiting exposure to programming twenty-thirty years ago would have impacted children who are now entering or are already a part of the work force. Actually, I wouldn't expect to see results from changes to education in less than ten-fifteen years, twenty-thirty seems pretty reasonable. Beyond that, I'm probably not the only one here who was actually growing up then, had a Windows 95 PC, and would've enjoyed dabbling in some BASIC as I was growing bored with HTML but I simply didn't know it existed until I was in high school a few years later and met people who knew more than I did.

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