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Ok, so the reason I don't have the CD key previously mentioned is that it doesn't come with one. That's right... they sell you a piece of equipment that comes with software that you can't use the equipment without, but you have to pay them extra to use the software. How much extra? Well to use the DSView software, you have to pay $750/per user. But you can't use the DSView Software without the DSAuthentication Service. That will run you $1000. So for one user, your $7000 piece of equipment ends up costing you almost $9000. And $750 per user after that.

Can you say RMA?

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  • That's why we always get 'demo' hardware before actually buying anything large. Try it out on a small environment, then worry about how we're going to FORCE it to scale.

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  • Now get back to work or I'll have to report you.

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  • I've looked at the Avocent stuff before, and it always looked like an overly complex setup unless you had 100s of servers, or dozens of physical locations. Yeah, its nice that you have a centralized authentication and don't have to maintain passwords on each individual switch, but what you pay for it just doesn't seem reasonable to me unless you have a huge number of KVM switches to install.

    I've looked at the HP IP based KVMs (http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=223387 2 [hp.com]) which claim that all they
    • Yeah, the Avocent RJ45 to PS/2+HD15 adapters were sold seperately, but I knew that in advance. And at $80 each, that's an extra $1280 on top of the switch.
    • If it's the rebranded compaq shit, don't do it.

      DON'T DO IT!!

      The compaq 'solution' was daisy-chained rj45's to their proprietary cards that half-worked. They were the bane of my existence. Evil, I tell you. EEEVIL!!!!
      • I think this a post merger product. They market it at as a step up from their traditional KVM switch that uses PS/2 and HD15 cables all the way from the switch to the server. It looks like it has 16 RJ45 ports on the front, and you run an RJ45 to each server and then there is an adapter that the RJ45 plugs into that then plugs into the PS/2 and Video ports. No Daisy chaining that I can see.

        Maybe you're thinking of an early version of the ILO cards? The DL380 G3s have a basic version of these in them, a
        • All I remember was that the idea was great, but the execution SUCKED ASS. They were pre-merger, and maybe they were 'ilo' cards -- they weren't lights out, though (generally compaq called them RILO: remote insight lights out) -- these things had 2 rj45's on them, a video cable and a funky-ass ps2-looking connector. you had a y-cable that connected k+m to the card, a pigtail vga cable, and they were daisychained.

          Guess what happened when the master card-holding server rebooted? Or anything before the one yo
  • I saw that subject line, and swore it was going to be another update on the Boo situation. (Which I'm woefully behind on.)

    • Then I'll give you the short, short version: her dad comes to me and says he feels like he and I aren't close anymore. I tell him we aren't because he never calls, I never come over, they won't let me talk to Boo, but I'd like to fix all that. He blames his wife and says he's been asking her to have me over. Next time I talk to him, I say I'm going to talk to her about all this, he freaks out, starts defending her, telling me to wait, blames Boo, saying he doesn't know why she doesn't ask for me to come
      • I saw the most recent one, but missed the earlier stuff. You're far more patient than I; I would have gone postal long, long ago.

        But let me tell you one thing: dealing with in-laws isn't a great deal easier at times:) Speaking of which, only another 24 hours until mine are out of town again.

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