What exactly constitutes incitement to violence is a matter of great (legal) debate.
I'm talking about ordinary usage of words, not what rises to a crime under legal code.
It would be silly for us to get into that debate and I will not entertain it any further
Good, because I'm not interested in it either, and you're the one who brought in the legal angle late in the game, not me.
even more so because you are ignoring and deflecting from my main points. Either respond to those or fuck off.
It's your fault for trying to use overly broad terminology as an excuse for what occurred.
That does not mean that Foval's group [actively incited violence | pick whatever term you like that describes what you know I mean]
I already did choose unambiguous and correct terms. Why do you feel the need to revert back to terms that are at best misleading, and at worst deceitful? The phrase I used is accurate, and I agree that they did not do this: "directly advocating others to commit violence".
Don't get me wrong: It's certainly a nasty tactic to deliberately try to influence the image of the Trump campaign by throwing a bunch of red meat in between his dogs and watch them tear it up
Yes, it is a nasty tactic to deliberately incite violence. I'm glad you can acknowledge that.
A sizable portion of Trump-supporters are still mean-spirited violent assholes.
I asked you what sizable was. Because if it's so significant and deserves all this attention, why is most of the violence and interruption of rallies coming from the other side with very little attention in comparison? Where are the mass demonstrations interrupting Clinton's rallies? Where's the violence against her rallies? Funny how that works out.
You don't get to pretend they are not and you don't get to claim that "we now know the violent rallies to be staged".
All I know about a handful of cases, and while the violent acts themselves weren't staged, the incitement to violence was.
By the way, I'm not the original poster who made the "staged" comment you responded to. Like you, I responded to one particular statement that was an overreach in your comment. If it's ok for you to do that, it's ok for me.