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Comment Re:Flawed Analogy (Score 4, Insightful) 107

When you screen huge masses of people needlessly, almost all to all of your hits are going to be incorrect. Additional testing of these false positives are harmful. Biopsies, radiation, no-fly lists -- harmful.

Nobody is saying that we should never wiretap if we have evidence. That's testing a small population. The problem here is that we are wiretapping everybody to attempt to find evidence.

Submission + - What Medical Tests Should Teach Us about the NSA Surveillance Program

Davak writes: In many ways finding the small amount of terrorists within the United States is like screening a population of people for a rare disease. A physician explains why collecting excessive data is actually dangerous. Each time a test is run, the number of people incorrectly identified quickly dwarfs the correct matches. Just like in medicine, being incorrectly labelled has serious consequences.

Comment For the doubters... (Score 3, Insightful) 378

Wasn't this core technology discussed on Slashdot a number of years back? If you google "Seam Carving" you'll find some nice wikipedia articles that discuss content-aware image resizing. This may be a variant on the same technology, and i actually doubt that this is an early release of an April Fool's Day joke (no matter how Star Trek this technology seems).

Comment Re:Goes to show. (Score 1) 467

The vast majority of people who don't immunize aren't doing it for religious reasons. There's a growing segment of 'educated' people who have 'researched' the issue and have decided that the risks outweigh the benefits.

Unfortunately there are 'professionals' within the health care system that spout this idiocy, including nurses and chiropractors.

Comment Re:My only problem with Dawkins is.. (Score 1) 1161

He is saying that teaching a religious doctrine is child abuse. That is just not reasonable.

You may not think it is reasonable, but we have pulled children out of homes before.

Saying that some religious teachings or philosophies are bad is no different than saying that some non religious philosophies are bad

True.

I think a non religious environment can be potentially abusive too. So what?
OK, why? At least Dawkins has a rational.

You're misunderstanding me.

The reason children 'get pulled out of homes' in your example is not because the parents are religious, but because the state believes that harm is being done. The focus is on the act (or lack of action) by the parents, not on the fact that the parents are teaching religion to their child.

Dawkins is not advocating against the specific things that can lead to harm, but rather that religion itself is harmful and tantamount to abuse in and of itself. That is unreasonable.

I think a non religious environment can be potentially abusive too. So what?
OK, why?

I suspect you think I am saying that a non religious environment is conducive to abuse (compared to a religious one). I am not. I think any environment has a potential for abuse and the religion aspect is a non issue.

Comment Re:My only problem with Dawkins is.. (Score 1) 1161

You honestly believe that religious people are all abusing their children?

I think a religious environment is potentially abusive, and instilling superstitious beliefs as truth in children is not a good thing.

You think that concept is 'reasonable'? It's staggering that you got modded up.

What about "christian scientists" that deny critical care to their children? What about muslims who teach terrorism. What about "abstenence only" education?

I'm not saying that fundamentalists weren't responsible for the twin towers. I'm saying that painting them as representatives for all religion is offensive. But that is his intent after all...

It is the seeming rational moderate "enablers" that give comfort to the extremists. Religion is nonsense. If you can believe absurdities you can perpetrate atrocities.

It's fine to look at a *specific* act or ideology and debate its merits. He is not. He is not saying 'potentially abusive', or 'more likely to be abusive'. He is saying that teaching a religious doctrine is child abuse. That is just not reasonable.

Saying that some religious teachings or philosophies are bad is no different than saying that some non religious philosophies are bad

I think a non religious environment can be potentially abusive too. So what?

There are plenty of non religious people who perpetrate atrocities. Would it be reasonable to paint Pol Pot or Stalin as model atheists?

Comment Re:My only problem with Dawkins is.. (Score 1) 1161

He's said that people who teach their kids religion are child abusers.

No, he said that labeling children is close to child abuse.

He ends one of his lectures by saying how religious fundamentalists crashed into the twin towers, and therefore it's time to stop being so respectful of religion.

No he doesn't. You are lying about what he's saying, just like with the child abuse argument he made.

Those are pretty offensive comments to me...

And I find it offensive that you are actively lying about what Dawkins is saying. Pathetic.

And I quote,

"How did September the 11th change you? Well here's how it changed me. Let's all stopped being so damned respectful."

This is from the atheist's call to arms from Tedtalks 2002.

Now who's lying to promote their own agenda?

Comment Re:My only problem with Dawkins is.. (Score 1) 1161

He's said that people who teach their kids religion are child abusers.

From a logical perspective, that is not unreasonable or unheard of. We remove children from "christian scientists" when they refuse critical care.

He ends one of his lectures by saying how religious fundamentalists crashed into the twin towers, and therefore it's time to stop being so respectful of religion.

Religious fundamentalists *DID* crash into the twin towers.

Those are pretty offensive comments to me...

Truth is often offensive to those who refuse to accept it.

You honestly believe that religious people are all abusing their children? You think that concept is 'reasonable'? It's staggering that you got modded up.

I'm not saying that fundamentalists weren't responsible for the twin towers. I'm saying that painting them as representatives for all religion is offensive. But that is his intent after all...

Comment Re:My only problem with Dawkins is.. (Score 1) 1161

I find a lot of the time he can be callously disrespectful and religiously atheist.

Having seen him many times, the only offense he may have committed is *not* entertaining the rediculous notion that a god exists without any proof.

He's said that people who teach their kids religion are child abusers.

He ends one of his lectures by saying how religious fundamentalists crashed into the twin towers, and therefore it's time to stop being so respectful of religion.

Those are pretty offensive comments to me...

Comment Re:Oklahoma? (Score 1) 1161

Dawkins holds that to be an intelligent scientific thinker you must hold to both strict naturalism and evolution apriori, which is not so subtly implying that all of the other 53-ish percent of humans living in the United states are basically drooling morons.

Perhaps Dawkins is not implying that these people are unintelligent, but that they are unscientific.

Actually in many of his lectures he implies that religious people are less intelligent. He delights in in the studies that have shown this kind of correlation.

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