I am not going to listen to anything you recommend. You are a random person on the Internet who has biased conclusions based on little evidence but their own personal observations. It is a lack of humility that you think your opinions means anything to anyone else.
I fully support your decision.
Not my problem. By the way, I can find many sites that tell us that you can consume as much phytoestrogens as you like, and it will be better, substituting soy and peas for meat.
You asked if I was concerned and I said no. But your first retort is "not my problem." To summarize you care about my opinion only if I agree with you but try to gaslight me when I have a different opinion.
Do you think? I support you whatever you like to do, and as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, you are free to eat and do as you will. How is that gaslighting? I'm remarkably open to people doing themselves harm, if they believe that is what they want. Even on purpose. It is your personal body, and who am I to tell you what to do with it.
That does not mean I won't tell you that you are harming yourself. Once. But if you reject my warning, it is your issue, not my problem.
I learned that long ago, when my wife made some decisions to do something, after I begged her not to make that decision. But just as with women, it is your body, your choice. After the second time, I said one ask to not do that, and if she wanted to drive her car off a cliff, I'd tell her not to do it one time, but wouldn't stop her if she thought she knew better. In irony, she listens to what I say better now.
And that is the very antonym of gaslighting, it is full bodily autonomy, you doing you, my friend. You do you in the manner you determine is the best for you, and that has not one thing to do with me. I showed you what I showed you, do as you will. If it harms you, it is your decision, your body, your life to live as you feel best without any input from me.
Are you concerned about phytoestrogen overload?
No.
Not my problem. By the way, I can find many sites that tell us that you can consume as much phytoestrogens as you like, and it will be better, substituting soy and peas for meat.
Oddly enough, many of the same people who decry endocrine disrupters like Bisphenol A as poison, have zero problem with eating as much Phytoestrogens as they like. Overconsumption of phytoestrogens is an issue in my book, but you can eat soy burgers, drink gallons of soy milk and eat soybean snacks too - if you like.
You now are directed to the National Institute of Health links I gave another poster, actual studies, feel free to deny them. Already it has been found that women raised on soy milk substitute have longer and more painful periods and are at risk of uterine fibroids. The problem with the idea that phytoestrogens are good for you is that long term studies have not been made. Perhaps tobacco was good for us until the long term studies were made? https://onlineexhibits.library....
And don't let us forget that the Sugar industry paid Harvard to falsely claim fat was a health culprit, not sugar. The disastrous results are still with us today. Morbidly obese people who think fat caused their obesity. https://www.npr.org/sections/t.... Actual Nutritionists knew better. They knew the faked results were just that - fake. They used actual legit research, not bribes.
A friend at an early workplace was the recipient of one of the earliest bypass operations. He was told by the hospital nutritionists that nee needed to limit sugars, and always eat moderate amounts of fats. He lived quite healthily until his mid-90's. All that despite the sugar industry and its claims otherwise.
I'm inclined to trust science, even then, I'm a skeptic. However, I can grok that since our endocrine system plays a powerful role in our health and under normal circumstances, our sex based differences, that proven disruptors might cause problems. I can look at even handed research like that from the NIH, can consult with nutritionists, can look around results like gynomastia in males, and uterine fibroids in women, and connect some dots.
But I recommend you eat as much of endocrine disruptors containing plant products as you can. You might be used as part of a long term study some day, helping humanity.
> Are you concerned about phytoestrogen overload?
Overload ? Like what plants for example ? I've read that foods like tofu aren't a risk and are thought to be associated with lowering breast cancer risk.
They can be beneficial for menopausal women, who have stopped producing natural estrogen.
The issue is not that a man has a problem if he eats a veggie burger made from peas or soy. Phytoestrogen is with no doubt an endocrine disruptor, which puts it in a class with endocrine disruptors like bisphenol A, and some insecticides and herbicides. The problem is not that we should stop eating soy and other plants with phytoestrogens, but should be concerned about the prevalence of exposure.
So there are people and groups who say that we can and should have a large intake of foods that contain a lot of phytoestrogens.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/a... Just like me, they recommend moderation. I love a good veggie burger, but it is once a month.
Note - from the nih article, high phytoestrogen intake has been linked with uterine fibroids and longer and more painful periods. The long term effects in males aren't as well known, because to be blunt, few care about males, until his wife wants a baby. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/a...
But we can all decide for ourselves. https://www.westonaprice.org/h...
Some do not care about how much estrogen men have, or any problems that might result.
I long ago decided to avoid the disruptors, and limit my intake of high phytoestrogens. It is a data point of one person, but I have as much "drive" as when I was in my 20's, and remain in shape without the dreaded gynomastia. https://www.gynecomastia.org/g.... It is so strange to see even skinny men with moobs. Anyhow, it is your choice.
Which in a world where nitrates are claimed as evil
Here's an advil to help with your hurt butt: O
You really are a nasty worthless person, who a person can't even agree with without you taking a fit; You don't need an Advil, you need fentanyl.
I do occasionally wonder if random hobbyists with their own webpage get these kinds of notices and just throw them in the trash can with the scams and adverts. Not that folks self host webpages commonly nowadays, but it'd be funny to receive notices from various countries about how your page violates their laws written in a language you can't even read.
I wonder as well. The ambiguities abound. "Right to Forget" was one big one. I don't write the one that "might" have been a violation, but the possibly illegal page had identifiable names and statistics going back to the early 1950's, usually based on record setting in RF activities. So that started the geoblocking. And as the data was copyrighted, but free to download and excerpt, if I still had that page, Belgium would get special consideration as well.
I block EU now because of the brain dead demand to let people know that cookies are used, and you have to click to accept. I use one cookie and one script, so I'm "Go home EU, you're not welcome here."
And I'm not the only one. Sometimes I forget to turn off the VPN, and a lot of sites block them.
1. Many meat sausages do not use animal-based casings. Here in the UK, Heck chicken sausages use an alginate-based casing, for example 2. What the fuck do you mean, non-meat eaters "should" lose the "taste and texture [of meat]"? Are you suggesting it's somehow immoral for non-meat eaters to want to eat products with the taste and texture of animal products, but without actual animal products? That sounds completely and utterly absurd to me, and flies in the face of thousands of years of culinary tradition around the world, such as Chinese vegan cookery (mock meat dishes have been being made in China for more than 2500 years)
Here's a better idea: how about you and people like you give less of a fuck about what products other people choose to consume, and leave your bizarre misogynistic fantasies about who uses mock meat in the dustbin, where they belong.
I agree with you - just not so intensely.
Meat does not own the rounded flat shape. Calling a falafel burger a burger doesn't infringe on anything, nor does a veggie burger or veggie sausage.
Bloody hell, is it infringing on the poor meat uber allies crowd if a person makes sausage with any non meat products? Some sausages have bread, potatoes, and rice in them, peppers, and all other manner of forbidden vegetables.
I'm not vegetarian or vegan, but I do like my veggies, and if they are in a forbidden form factor, well too bad.
If vegetarian friends come over, I can cook them yummy stuff that shouldn't offend anyone. Vegans can be harder to cook for, especially the hardcore who demand that nothing that ever touched meat dare touch their food. Fortunately, I don't have any vegan friends, after a lot of psychological abuse by some, I tend to steer clear.
I should add that the vegetarian versions can also taste just as good, perhaps because they are also processed as much....notably Cauldron Lincolnshire and Cumberland. There was also a plant based burger in China that was very delicious, though they've stopped making that now.
Of course they can taste good. The processing meme is a strange thing to me. If I grind may own sausage, that's processing. If I mash potatoes, that's processing. Bloody hell, if I cook something, I'm processing it. So buying processed foods is only unhealthy if they have unhealthy ingredients in them.
Side note. There is a trend of "uncured bacon" out there. That's a lie. it is cured. Checking there ingredients, it usually has celery juice in it, which is quite high in nitrates. Which in a world where nitrates are claimed as evil, vegetables have a lot of them, quite naturally.
If we follow all the rules, we become breatharians.
I personally don't eat red meats very much anymore due to the unhealthy factor. But the funny thing is that the vegetarian/vegan versions are probably just as processed (or even more processed) and just as unhealthy as the meat versions, and I wouldn't eat those either...
Are you concerned about phytoestrogen overload? Overconsumption of those has them functioning as an endocrine disrupter. It upsets hormone balance in males, and in women, their natural estrogen production can shut down.
But what the heck do you call ground stuff stuffed in a thin casing other than a sausage ? i guess they call them "links" sometimes for breakfast sausage.
The sausage thing is pretty interesting. There are so many types of sausage, including total vegetarian sausage, which BTW, can be very tasty. The home made type is preferred, at least by me.
I find it amusing though, how so many people get all spun up about these things. I eat meat burgers, I eat veggie burgers. Sausage of all types, from beef to pork to vegetable. All yummy. The only thing I do is I do restrict the veggie burgers with soy or pea ingredients to every "once in a while" to avoid phytoestrogen overload.
Sometime, some people who think they are more important than they really are, just need a simple lesson: Be left alone in their corner of the world in isolation.
Meanwhile the rest of the world will enjoy a super important tool that Internet Archive is, and they will try to provide better way at enforcing copyright rules than just use the lazy and dumb way and accuse the wrong people and become the needle in the foot that nobody need, because you want to rules like a pyramid, and can't figure out how to punish the actual people who break copyrights, so instead you go after their upstream provider. And note that I am not against enforcing copyrights, but it need to be done in a proper way, not with this plain stupid method.
Absolutely not acceptable.
It is simple. Some people might call it malicious compliance, but simply geoblock Belgium. I do it for EU countries on my websites.
Now of course, Belgium citizens can use VPN - that is how I test my geoblocking BTW - to access the forbidden materials, but then, that isn't the internet archive's problem, it is Belgium citizens breaking their country's laws. Then they can be dealt with internally.
I was curious if you knew, because you sounded dismissive of this year's winners, and I wondered if you might equally dismissive of previous winners who didn't have Curie's name recognition. I commend you for actually knowing.
I appear to have insulted some people, Wasn't my intent.
Side note regarding Organo-Metallic materials. An author I like - Brian Stableford - in 1973, predicted organo-metallic materials in "Rhapsody in Black" In that case, it was living worm like creatures that created copper matrix materials.
File "feeding troll" under "That trick never works".
Well, he was trying to flex like I didn't know. I did look up Becquerel's first name - Henri. I can be dinged on that if people like.
But the juicy part is he was trying to catch me with her co-writers, while not even having the right Nobel prize. That prize with two co authors was in physics. Her prize in Chemistry was solo. It was highly related to the physics Nobel. But to your other comment about the nationalistic fervor if the Japanese - perhaps I insulted some of out Japanese posters. Certainly that was not the intent.
The intent was to compare the discovery of Radium and Polonium to Metallic materials that allow gas to permeate them.
Apparently a lot of people deeply care about that, and comparing pioneering work on radioactivity and discovery of radium and polonium was an insult. Perhaps I am unschooled in social mores of some people.
The Japanese treat it as a big national pride thing, and they were already sort of ecstatic about winning two years in a row before they got two winners in the same year. I think that's what made me wonder about the original country of the third winner for this chemistry prize... Are they rejoicing, too?
I'm not surprised. But if one's country winning, is a main point, it becomes a sort of intellectual and science Olympics, where one's country is as important as the science involved.
Regardless, congratulations to Japan. They obviously have some pretty smart people.
Without looking it up, can you list the other two nobel prize winners for physics alongside Marie Curie?
Her husband Pierre, and a guy named Becquerel Since I wasn't allowed to look it up, I might have mangled the spelling.
BTW, I was referring to her Nobel in Chemistry - she had two.
So thanks for your modding me down. Then so cowardly and wrong, acting like the self proclaimed genius you thing you are, referring to an off topic Nobel, thinking I was referring to her physics Nobel? I was referring to her chemistry Nobel my dear cockawhoop. If you are going to be smart, stay on topic.
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