It would be a problematic precedent if there were criminal liability

Here is a list of examples from the pre-AI era kindly put together for me by Claude... With the prosecuting attorneys' party-affiliations, because BeauHD felt it is important:

United States v. Google Inc. — Non-Prosecution Agreement (D.R.I. 2011)

Platform: Google (search/advertising)

Allegation: The DOJ's Office of Criminal Investigations (working with the FDA) investigated Google for knowingly allowing unlicensed Canadian online pharmacies to advertise prescription drugs and controlled substances to US consumers via its AdWords program since at least 2003. Google reportedly helped these advertisers optimize their illegal ads. The investigation was triggered when a cooperating fugitive revealed his use of AdWords to run illegal pharmaceutical sales.

Outcome: Google entered a Non-Prosecution Agreement and forfeited $500 million — one of the largest such forfeitures in US history. The lead prosecutor stated publicly that "Larry Page knew what was going on." No criminal charges were filed against individuals. Google was treated as an aider and abettor of illegal drug importation.

Prosecuting attorney: Peter F. Neronha, US Attorney, District of Rhode Island — Democrat (Obama appointee).

State of South Carolina — Criminal Threat Against Craigslist (2009)

Platform: Craigslist

Allegation: South Carolina AG Henry McMaster sent a formal letter to Craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster threatening criminal prosecution under state law for knowingly allowing the site to be used to solicit prostitution, following a series of high-profile crimes linked to Craigslist's Erotic Services section (including the "Craigslist Killer" murders).

Outcome: Craigslist sued McMaster preemptively; a South Carolina federal judge issued a temporary restraining order blocking the threatened prosecution on Section 230 grounds. No criminal charges were filed. Craigslist eventually shut down its Erotic Services section nationally in September 2010.

Prosecuting attorney: Henry McMaster, Attorney General of South Carolina — Republican.

Multistate AG Coalition Criminal Pressure Campaign Against Craigslist (2009–2010)

Platform: Craigslist

Allegation: Following McMaster's lead, attorneys general from over 40 states issued coordinated demands threatening criminal prosecution of Craigslist executives for facilitating prostitution and sex trafficking through the Erotic Services section. The pressure intensified after the "Craigslist Killer" murders of Philip Markoff.

Outcome: No criminal charges were filed against Craigslist or its executives. Craigslist closed the Adult Services section in 2010 under sustained pressure, and in 2012 Illinois AG Lisa Madigan's office and Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart continued applying pressure. The campaign showed the limits of criminal threats constrained by Section 230.

Prosecuting attorneys: Multiple state AGs of both parties — notably McMaster (Republican, SC); Richard Blumenthal (Democrat, CT); Tom Miller (Democrat, IA); Roy Cooper (Democrat, NC); Lisa Madigan (Democrat, IL). Mixed partisan coalition.

People of California v. Carl Ferrer / Backpage (California, 2016)

Platform: Backpage

Allegation: California AG Kamala Harris obtained a criminal arrest warrant for Backpage CEO Carl Ferrer on three counts of pimping and conspiracy to commit pimping, alleging the platform knowingly profited from sex trafficking.

Outcome: Ferrer was arrested in Texas. The California pimping charges were twice dismissed by a Sacramento judge who ruled Section 230 barred the state prosecution. The case was later superseded by the federal Backpage indictment.

Prosecuting attorney: Kamala Harris, Attorney General of California — Democrat.

United States v. Michael Lacey et al. / Backpage (D. Ariz. 2018)

Platform: Backpage

Allegation: Federal grand jury indicted seven Backpage executives on 93 counts including conspiracy to facilitate prostitution using an interstate facility, and multiple money laundering charges. The indictment alleged Backpage knowingly hosted and edited sex trafficking ads and stripped identifying information ("Lolita," "new to town") from ads to obscure their illegal nature.

Outcome: The FBI seized Backpage.com. CEO Carl Ferrer pleaded guilty, acknowledging most adult ads were for prostitution. The trial of remaining defendants ended in a 2021 mistrial after prosecutorial misconduct. Retrial proceedings are ongoing. This is the most fully realized criminal prosecution of a major internet platform for facilitating crime in US history.

Prosecuting attorneys: Elizabeth A. Strange, Acting US Attorney, District of Arizona — Republican (Trump appointee). Jeff Sessions, AG — Republican.

State v. Drew — Missouri State Investigation and Lori Drew (2008)

Platform: MySpace (secondary target)

Allegation: After the Megan Meier suicide, Missouri authorities investigated whether to bring criminal charges under Missouri statutes. The local DA's office in St. Charles County declined to charge Drew, finding no applicable Missouri law. The case exposed a statutory gap that prompted new cyberbullying laws nationwide. MySpace was subpoenaed and cooperated.

Outcome: No Missouri state charges filed against Drew or MySpace. Led directly to federal prosecution (see above) and to Missouri and over 40 other states enacting criminal cyberbullying statutes.

Prosecuting attorney: Jack Banas, St. Charles County Prosecuting Attorney — Republican. Declined to prosecute.

After claude found the issues, humans could check and fix them

Claude can do the fixing too, just as easily, in most cases. Maybe, Mythos cannot — never tried it — but Opus or even Sonnet certainly can.

Why would anyone want to work for a company that does stuff like this??

Sport driving will not go away just the same.

I like and want a sports car for DAILY driving...

I like to drive....and every day when I get into it and fire up the engine, it's an adventure for me.

I don't just go from point A to point B....what a boring life that would make for....

I was listening to the original summary of this article...till they used the word "equity".

I immediately shut off anytime that word comes up.

Now...if they start once again to go for equality...well, then, I'll listen again.

I'm going to assume you're not aware of the incontrovertible evidence done by John Bray and others proving that the "ballistic tests were inconclusive" is hardly the tip of the iceberg. It's conclusive that the 'lone shooter' narrative is false, and almost certain that a rapidly expanding explosive like PETN was involved (lapel mic). There's nothing else which fits the mutually supportive analysis work that's been done.

Nah, I just have a long horizon on my memory. "Wait a second, this contradicts what the media was just saying!" And then I look into it myself. It doesn't take speculation when there's readily available evidence to refute media claims, made by the media themselves.

The media narrative on both masking during covid, and subsequently the narrative shift over the Ukraine conflicts, are perfect examples.

Masking: masking isn't necessary; no wait, only doctors should mask; masks don't actually help; masking is good for you, actually.

Ukraine: Ukrainians are actual Nazis (2013); Ukraine overthrown by the US government; Ukraine is now, somehow, not Nazis; Ukrainians are the good guys, actually, and we have to support them against Russia

(You can do the same narrative progression to sway concensus for COVID lab genesis, the Epstein files, or any of the other things I mentioned. They'll deny it, then switch course slowly as it's acceptable and people grow fatigued. It's plain as day to anyone with the mental horizon of more than 2 weeks.

I'd argue both major political parties (and then some), yes.

Those pamphlets are nice, my state does something similar. It's problematic, however, when both sides are lying outright and it's hard to split the difference without looking at the actual bills/amendments/provisions. That seems often to be the case. It's also common for "one side"s rebuttal is actually the other side's strawman rebuttal, which may or may not be due to either malice or intellectual deficiency.

Perhaps a bit conspiratorial, but given all of Trump's other betrayals in the past couple months, this can't help but seem like it was initially planned this way: do something that makes life hard, which will make life harder in a couple months when all the other cards start to drop.

I'll need it for my motorcycle.....hoping it all lasts till after I'm dead and gone, so I can enjoy the "old ways"....

I love paying $5 a gallon for high test and $7 for diesel. Although dear leader is telling me prices are lower than ever.

Just recently at Costco I paid $3.99/gallon for premium.....I live in LA in the New Orleans area.....hasn't gotten very bad here yet....

I am not wealthy by any definition, rent a flat, have no garage and no second car, just my Hyundai Inster. And will rather use public transport than get a car that burns fuel.

Aren't you tired of whining about how electric cars are bad since they are impractical in some edge cases that don't even apply to you over and over and over again in every slashdot discussion about electric cars? Or are you being paid for doing this?

With your references to living in a "flat" and taking public transport....you can NOT live in the US.

Somehow you don't understand that what you consider an "edge case" is NOT an edge case over here...it's real and widespread.

For most people

If they did (in the US), then most people would have them or be actively pursing them....

Even if I could charge at home, I'm not willing to give up the driving experience that I have enjoyed since I was a teen.....2-seater sports care with manual transmission.

I know I'll lose the transmission with EV some day...but right now, there's no such thing as an EV that is a 2 seater sports car, everything is 4 seater family car and I'm just not interested in a family truckster.

And an EV motorcycle...would just kill the experience completely....ugh....

I'm not set up to "charge at home"....so far here in southern LA, it hasn't really gotten that expensive for gas yet, I hit Costco the other day and was just now up to $3.99/gal here.

To take the strain off, I try to ride my motorcycle whenever I can, which I enjoy more anyway.....