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Journal Mantorp's Journal: Boozin' it up on a Sunday 15

In many US States it's illegal to buy alcohol in stores on Sundays. As this is the day of the week with more sports on TV than any other day of the week this is highly illogical. Few things go better with watching a game, than beer.

I'm sure the reason behind this stupid outdated law is that the churches don't want to lose the battle for an audience on Sunday mornings. So in essence I'm being punished by other people's religious beliefs, pretty sure there's a class action law suit in here somewhere.

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Boozin' it up on a Sunday

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  • Welcome to the United States of Assholes that think they can dictate their religious beliefs to the rest of the country.

    We have a long tradition of this and it goes back to the Puritans and burning witches at the stake.

    I live in New England, in a town that was founded in the 1600s, and guess what, you can't buy beer here on Sundays either... It really blows, and I can't wait for the day when we throw out all outdated and reprehensible laws.

    If you haven't read it, I highly recommend reading Terry McWilliam' [mcwilliams.com]
    • luckily I'm close enough to the NY border that it's not impossible for me to go get some, but why should I be inconvenienced?
    • If you haven't read it, I highly recommend reading Terry McWilliam's book Aint Nobody's Business if you do, where he talks about the absurdity of legislating morality upon people. If everyone read this book, our world would be a lot better place.

      Isn't morality things like, "Thou shalt not kill," "Thou shalt not cheat," "Thou shalt not steal" and stuff like that?

      I'll bet there are a lot of people who would be happy if the US didn't legislate morality. Ex-Enron executives, and people with a beef with o

      • Repealing the blue laws will hardly bring anarchy to the land, I just want a beer.
        • Repealing the blue laws will hardly bring anarchy to the land, I just want a beer.

          I thought we were talking about legislating morality, not overturning blue laws. Stop confusing me.

      • Isn't morality things like, "Thou shalt not kill," "Thou shalt not cheat," "Thou shalt not steal" and stuff like that?

        I'll bet there are a lot of people who would be happy if the US didn't legislate morality. Ex-Enron executives, and people with a beef with others come to mind, naturally. Oh, and people who need a quick buck.


        No, those aren't questions of morality. Murder is a crime, plain and simple. If you read the book you'll see he is talking about victimless crimes, or crimes of consent, such as the g
      • So blue laws are the same as (some of) the 10 commandments? Nice. Good to see you're objective about these things.

        Guess what? MANY moral systems can come to the same basic ideas about killing and stealing. But I don't want to see laws about having to honor "God", having to not dance, etc. All of which are portrayed as "moral" issues by their proponents, but there is quite a bit of difference between doctrinal morality and mutually agreed upon morality.

        • So blue laws are the same as (some of) the 10 commandments? Nice.

          You have to decide what you are talking about. The JE was talking about Blue Laws. Fine. Blue laws are just laws restricting activities or sales of goods on Sunday. They are a societal norm. Many states don't have Blue Laws anymore. No big deal.

          But the parent poster said that we should not legislate morality. Upon which I pointed out we must legislate moral or society would be in a heap 'o trouble. Now, blue laws have nothing real

          • "Legislating morality", as used and understood by anyone but those who want to enforce their own morals on other people, is about legislating moral issues that have no concrete or real impact on others.

            Last time I checked, blue laws were an attempt to legislate morality. If your assertion is that we "must" legislate morality, then tell me how you determine whose morality to legislate?

            Murder and such things are simply pragmatic--common sense shows that if you allow murder with impunity, society falls apart.

            • If your assertion is that we "must" legislate morality, then tell me how you determine whose morality to legislate?

              I don't "assert" that we have legislate everybody's "whims" as to who they feel people in this society should live. But what I am trying to say is that legislation is an attempt to create a set of morals in society that everyone must adhere to so that we can all live together peacefully. In other words, we must legislate morality to create a place where we can live with each other. That

  • Many moons ago I ran a convenience store... taught me a whole lot about life and about people. Sunday mornings were among the most interesting. Amid a constant stream of typical morning traffic was a high number of older black ladies buying a new pair of stockings before church, which for some reason always amused me. Then, at a few minutes to noon, the line would form. See, in North Carolina you can't buy beer or wine until noon on Sundays (and liquor not at all, since that's only sold in government run st
  • The reason people have Sunday off from work is also due to God's say-so and somebody's religious beliefs. Gotta take the good with the bad. And buy lots of booze on Saturday.

    Aren't you Swedish anyway? Remember how Systembolaget used to be shut the whole weekend because of some busybody's social-engineering beliefs.

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