LordBodak's Journal: Libertarians

My parents have a good friend who is a Libertarian. He is always willing to give you his opinion on any political issue, and he agrees with most Libertarian principles.

So do I.

He always says, "why don't you vote for the Libertarian if you agree with them?"

Well, here's why. Libertarians I've met are all talk. They all say "this needs to be done, that needs to be done to fix this country." But the ones I've met don't DO anything. They don't make their opinions clear to their elected officials, they don't do things in the community to try and change what they don't agree with.

What I see them do is sit around and complain about things.

The reason a Libertarian (although this is probably true for most of the "other" parties) will not be elected President is simple: they're all talk.

You know what I want to see? I want to see a Libertarian run for Congress. There are plenty of areas in this country where a Libertarian candidate could win that election.

Serve your term in Congress, show us a voting record to prove that you really will try to do all these things you talk about, and then people will start to take notice.

Ron Paul

[Cyberdyne]

Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party Presidential candidate for 1988, and now has a seat in Congress (nominally Republican, Texas). While he was a Republican nominee for the seat, he's very much a Libertarian, as his speeches and voting record reflect.
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Kerry's current economic strategy: tax cuts for big business, tax increases for the people. Oh dear.

lame excuse

[ted_nugent]

So by supporting the front runners, instead of the Libertarians, you think you are somehow "making your vote count"? I don't see your logic.

Re:lame excuse

[LordBodak]

No, I don't buy into the whole "a vote for the third party is a wasted vote" thing. If you vote for who you agree with, you're making your cote count, regardless of who wins.

But I'm voting for a known quantity. I may not agree with a candidate, but I can look at what he's done and generally assume that he will continue to treat issues the same way he has through his career (except for Kerry, who seems to change his mind daily).

The Libertarians don't have that voting record. They have a lot of propaga

Re:lame excuse

[ted_nugent]

OK, so you're saying you prefer to see a career politician in office over a person who has spent their lives actually working and building something successful.

I would much prefer to have someone with a 'live and let live' attitude take the office, even if they really didn't do anything. That would be in stark contrast to every single administration since Roosevelt, who have all increased goverment by 3-7% during their time in office.

Of course I would prefer that they make some headway on repealing exis

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I Mostly Agree with Libertarians

[dead sun]

I mostly agree with them, except every single time there's a Libertarian candidate that I'd vote for they open their dumb mouths and reveal that they have some personal agenda for some freakishly horrible idea.

Last one that I avoided voting for wanted to completely do away with public education. Seriously. There's Libertarian and there's absurd. This passes the line if you ask me.

I guess I'm some weird moderate that believes the government shouldn't infringe on people's lives while at the same time providin

Re:I Mostly Agree with Libertarians

[giverson]

I mostly agree with them, except every single time there's a Libertarian candidate that I'd vote for they open their dumb mouths and reveal that they have some personal agenda for some freakishly horrible idea.

Over here in Maryland, the one LP candidate was for governor. I went to the various candidates websites, and found that everyone of them said the same thing, just with their party's spin. Even the libertarian! He basically stated that he would govern according the majority opinion.

There is no

Re:I Mostly Agree with Libertarians

[dead sun]

A few of the Libertarians I've had the pleasure of not voting for actually seemed to hold views that differed from every other party's, though it was given with the typical Libertarian spin. Oh, and the views weren't so shockingly different that they were a real alternative, just enough that I'd say they weren't the same views.

I agree that the majority decision is not always the best decision, as the majority of people are idiots or just plain don't care. Heck, since half the people are as dumb or dumber th