Obviously, their data abstraction is far from complete, since they can't even abstract an array, Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Matte...

I actually like Matter's design very much. I have made it very clear that the claim of local-only means nothing. The real problem is information leak, which they won't talk about. Secondly, preventing information leaks is very difficult. You can compile your own thread router and devices, but it means nothing for regular users. Your experience doesn't even apply to Home Assistant.

The point is to turn a $1 MCU into a platform like Android that can run arbitrary applications chosen by end-users. End users should be able to select automation algorithms to run on devices, as apps. As for advanced data structures, why should end users abstract them? You keep confusing developer and user roles. That's insane! Every time you just think for yourself. You don't represent users at all. Have some humanity!

A clear separation between developers and users. Tech bros can be developers. And they are not users. Developers develop Apps and share Apps with billions of users.

Like running arbitrary IoT Apps on IoT devices? And this: https://community.home-assista... And this: https://www.reddit.com/r/homea... I know exactly why. And you don't.

I think local-only means virtually nothing if every device can go out to the cloud. "Local-only" becomes a false pretence. Will it block Nest from connecting to the cloud? It certainly won't. So it just hooks up to whatever device on the network, whether they are local-only or not.

Every Matter message is IP-routable. I feel I should stop discussing with you.

That's the design goal. Why did you intentionally omit "zero information leak"? Isn't it the most important factor?

That's pretty good. So you are already doing better than Home Assistant.

I built automation that Home Assistant can't do. https://docs.smartonlabs.com/d... with zero infromation leak. https://docs.smartonlabs.com/d...

Ha's own thread border router won't block the Internet. Your setup is still full of holes like Swiss cheese.

Not all vendors use CSA for OTA updates. Many just don't. They force users to install their Apps on smartphones to perform updates. My point is: Home Assistant can't enforce any policy. And those claims do not really belong to them.

My point is that those measures have nothing to do with Home Assistant. Their claims are just void.

Matter is so far the best design. My point is that the benefits Home Assistant claimed are all pretty much void, given that they basically changed nothing.

Plus, if you block the internet. How can you get the firmware update? Can Home Assistant do it for you? Does anyone have any impact on the vendor firmware? or enforce any trust? Still too much winning?