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Comment Re: More about eliminating WrongThink (Score 1) 359

It's understood that people who devote their lives to mastery of a topic other than persuasion may in fact be bad at persuasion... and may also lack social skills and public speaking skills in general.

That said, I think your distrust is misplaced.

In your effort to demonstrate how critical you are, you've let slip that all you really need to believe a thing is a persuasive argument from a masterful liar.

Comment Re: And the show goes on (Score 1) 736

I respect your viewpoint and understand where you come from, and I expand on this in my first reply. The source of my suspicion of Republican motivation has nothing to do with Trump, and more to do with history and the people Trump currently surrounds himself with.

I also make an attempt to explain your experience talking to liberals. I've seen it too. It isn't great, but I think it's due to the media's current hysteria surrounding Trump and the alt-right.

Comment Re: And the show goes on (Score 1) 736

I'm not saying it isn't possible to have a pleasant debate experience with conservatives, I work in an industry dominated by them and I've had my own - but I pick my battles and I speak in their political language - it might help that I'm not economically progressive, so right away we agree on a lot of things.

In any case, I don't rub my beliefs in people's faces to try to look cool or smart. I wait for them to talk to me about it and then we can have a useful conversation, and I never ever call anyone racist.

But in those conversations, while they're smiling at you and "handing you a bible", remember that their leadership is forever plotting to take away your right to openly be yourself, and using your existence to bolster their "gay agenda" narrative in order to scare their party faithful and divide the public.

People say the liberals "won the culture war", but I think that war is still ongoing. Conservatives won what matters - political hegemony. The rest is sure to follow.

To understand where I'm coming from, start by ignoring Trump, Milo, and even Bannon. Ignore the weirdos that are there just to look appealing to free wheeling Millennials. Look at the people Trump hires or surrounds himself with. People like Pence, Giuliani, Priebus, and formerly Christie... these are the ones with real political power and they have a track record of doing things that hurt the very people they're expected now to work for under the veil of Trumpism.

I am forced to admit, however, that when it comes to division for the sake of securing political power, both parties are guilty. I am very unhappy with the Democrats and the MSM right now, and I've never really been that pleased with them and their willingness to lie in order to super-charge the truth. But I still believe the liberals have it right. If you talk to a liberal and they freak out and call you a self-hating racist, that's because the MSM is forever on over-drive trying to get them more worked up about Trump than they should be.... there's a lot to be concerned about, but it's not about Trump being a dictator, or Trump being a fascist, or Trump being the second coming of Adolf Hitler. The truth is more insidious than that. I think when your publication turns yellow like that it risks de-legitimizing your entire message. When the entire MSM is doing it, people like us are left to come to our own conclusions.

Comment Re: And the show goes on (Score 1) 736

You can objectively come to this conclusion by deviating from their idea of normal. The left will tolerate you. The right will punish you.

No one is normal, the only difference between us is our willingness to conform to an ideological standard.

But perhaps in a world devoid of intrinsic relativism, in a righteous world I suppose, that scenario would paint the deviant as an objectively bad person in need of reform and training. No doubt, there are many righteous people online spreading the word for their faith, warning us of the coming cultural apocalypse.

Comment Re: What an empty life (Score 5, Insightful) 736

I kinda liked that site. It was a fun read. I also listened to Alex's show for the same reason. The best comparison I could make for it at the time is to the supermarket tabloids. It's not so much that it's fake news, as it was pure entertainment that happened to be taken seriously by random nut jobs we could easily ignore in our day to day lives. (And who Alex could profit from by selling crappy prepper merchandise)

Unfortunately one of those people is our future President. I'm waiting for him to question the moon landing. Then we will be entering the prologue to Interstellar.

His rise is symptomatic of an increasing number of people taking these shit-stain outlets seriously. The MSM de-legitimized itself and made this possible, and I place the blame squarely on their shoulders. Thanks to them we have to remind people that these sources are "fake", and that they aren't smarter than everyone else for having a pointlessly contrarian view of vaccinations, 9/11, global warming, the Earth's roundness, or the moon landing.

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