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Comment Re:Had a friend near there. (Score 1) 70


Stronger punishment is the smaller part of the equation of deterrence. It's the feeling of risk versus the likelihood of getting caught.
We need to encourage improvements in enforcing the rule of law and good international police partnership. At the same time without discouraging infringing liberties and privacy. Simply being harder on crime doesn't solve the problem.

Comment Contracting (Score 3, Insightful) 48

These individuals are employees of GlobalLogic or their subcontractors, not Alphabet," Courtenay Mencini, a Google spokesperson, said in a statement...

Just gotta contract out the unpopular parts and then don't have to be responsible for any of the blame. Definitely not an industry wide issue...

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 1) 215

Teacher says little Johnny has ADHD.

Teacher might say that Johnny has behavior problems and is failing the class. That evidence may be provided by the parents to the doctor, who then can make the diagnosis along with lot of other criteria. At no point does the teacher talk to the doctor... Nor does the doctor force the child to take medication.

As a male with ADHD who had a hard time sitting still in class, no I am not going to pretend that there are not difficulties with modern education and male development or people with ADHD. And like everything else ADHD is a set of normal human behaviors and experiences taken to disorder. High activity in boys is normal behavior and does cause issues in class. It also takes more than just hyperactivity to be diagnosed.

they get rid of people

But that's the thing, private schools aren't required to take the kids with disabilities or behavior disorders.

why would you not be happy to get rid of people whjo0 don't share your values

I don't take umbrage with school choice, nor do I believe that public schools are unfettered by shedding children of conservatives. Many public school educators are religious and conservative. Further my personal experience in a extremely religious and conservative college tell me that your proposed solution is less effective than you are proposing. Closeted gay kids of conservatives that couldn't talk about their sexuality with their parents didn't suddenly become straight after reaching the end of high school. (And not for lack of trying, those conversion camps or talks from Exodus International sure weren't effective)

However the issue is ending the financial responsibility for supporting the public system, just like how someone without children still has to pay taxes. Because paying isn't about your kid, but about your neighbor's. Secondly those schools need to have the same requirements to have a good education. Like having qualified teachers or taking kids with disabilities / behavioral disorders. Or not shoving a kid into a room to read religious propaganda books without a teacher.

Again, I called no one names and you were responding to me. No, being in support of private schools doesn't make one a racist or a religious zealot. That said inverse can be true, there are plenty of people who are those things and are in support of private schools because of those beliefs. People who are White Supremacists would want private schools, let's not forget "Separate but equal" and school integration. They would have no concern for how their actions would affect other peoples children.

All said, if people uphold their civic responsibility for having everyone's children have the opportunity for quality education, then I have no objection to people choosing to go to the school of their choice including religious or private schools.

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 1) 215

if you don't support public schools, you are some sort of religious fundamentalist?

The largest lobby of private school vouchers are religious schools. No, that doesn't make all private school attendance religious. So to talk about the main driving force isn't wrong.

Can we lose a bit of a school system

Great, if you have ideas of how to improve your public school system. Most control is at the local level, go work with your school board.

a school system that believes males are defective and need drugging to make them compliant?

Where are teachers or school administrators the ones prescribing or administering drugs? And maybe then thing like NCLB and teaching to a test should be curtailed in favor of engaging content that doesn't leave boys behind.

It is sadly true that the left wing side of the country is every bit as intolerant

Tolerance of who people is different than tolerance of ideas. Also it isn't two side of a coin, there are multitudes of issues each with their own spectrum. The appearance of being binary is a symptom of a two party system.

At no point was there any name calling. Yes, there are kids that use private school vouchers for non-religious schools. But the voucher system is used for kids to be religiously indoctrinated. My college room mate from a "private" was locked in a room with 10 other kids and forced to read Abeka books with no instruction. Where the school was not held to the same standards as a public school. I can find my tax dollars being use to enable that, to be objectionable.

Comment Re: So many things that contribute to this (Score 1) 215

nuclear science facility for the last decade or so

Your positive experience doesn't prove that all private and homeschool teaching is up to par. I went to a religious university where under 50% of students were from a public education background. Some of the religious private school education was great, my first room mate also became a nuclear engineer. My second room mates high school experience was being locked in a room reading Abeka books.

And maybe you didn't read the article, but the declines in performance are identified with activities outside of the classroom. Public school classrooms have strong curriculum standards than in the past. NCLB being these are the things that you have to cover and they are going to be on the standardized test. Those math programs are required to cover more than they used to. But yet students are doing worse, and it's because of what's happening outside of the classroom.

You claim to have a good knowledge of US history, but then claim that oppression and racism don't exist. Are we suppose to ignore slavery, the Civil War, Jim Crow, reconstruction, and redlining never happened?

It is also possible to disagree with the burning of buildings and rioting, but that watching an extrajudicial killing of man having his life slowly choked out of him while he pleaded for his life is symptomatic of a problem. If you can watch that video and feel nothing, I don't understand how you don't own up to accepting the label of hateful.

Public education discourse is a sewer of people who because they attending school believing that they have all the answers. But if you're to be believed that leftism is the cause of public schools failing, why are the schools in conservative states where any of that "indoctrination" is banned the lowest performing? Again maybe some self reflection is in order because the largest causes are parenting outside of the classroom. And if your kids aren't doing well, maybe take some personal responsibility for you children's poor performance.

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 0) 215

This is completely ignorant of economies of scale. You can't get money back from unbuilding a classroom. Or each child subsidizes part of the cost of a school nurse or the special education department. And it's not 30 kids from the same grade so that it's easy to cut staff.

And that voucher that doesn't cover the full cost of education then means that it's a subsidy only for the wealthy who can pay the rest of the cost of tuition. Selective Exit.

People interested in teaching can choose between public school and charter school and private school careers

That choice looks a lot bleaker when private schools pay teachers way less with worse benefits.

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 4, Insightful) 215

The problem is that it's more than choice, but selective exit. The costs of those left behind are greater, such as the costs of Special Education. Conveniently those religious schools won't have to accept people with disabilities. Those voucher programs generally don't pay for the full cost of tuition (because public schools have economies of scale), so this ends up just being a tax cut on the affluent who would already pay for the tuition dressed up as aid for the poor who still can't attend.

But it boils down to: "I pay so your child becomes a literate citizen, not because I love your child, but because everyone benefits when everyone is educated." That's the value proposition for public education and that makes a lot less sense when the ask is for your child to be religiously indoctrinated instead.

Comment Re:On the bright side for Republicans (Score 1) 215

Really, what is the end game here?

It's not about the end-game. It's about feeding their base with a very vocal lobby. Republicans since the Southern Strategy and the "Moral Majority" have relied on a religious base. This funds that religious bases' schools. Those religious people are also know that conversion rates of children are much higher than those of adults. (This also being the reason for "Vacation Bible School", "Good News Club", and religious camps.) Courting the religious demographic yields devoted voters. This allows for other parts of the platform to even be things that are distasteful but are overcome by those single issue voters.

Don't have to have an end game if the strategy gets enough votes to keep you in your political seat.

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 1) 215

The SAT isn't the standard test for NCLB. That blog post is marketing fluff to encourage students to take the SAT over the ACT because they make money on each student who takes the test. So students not wanting to take it because students perceive it to be hard loses them customers. As long as the test is fair, whether it's hard or not, allows a comparison within a cohort. That doesn't have anything to do with the rigor of high school leading up to that test or college acceptance rates/criteria.

I also think you overestimate the value of teaching to a standardized test is. Math is a beautiful topic that's takes known facts and allows them to be used to solve creative problems. When it's reduced to do this worksheet with the same rote process 50 times so that the schools funding doesn't get taken away, the beauty and utility of math gets stolen.

Comment Re:So many things that contribute to this (Score 4, Insightful) 215

School vouchers are different than school choice.

School vouchers take money away from the public system to give to private and religious schools. It is one thing to get a choice in where to send your kid to school, it's different to ask everyone to pay for that private choice.

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