Journal FortKnox's Journal: White Smoke! ... Time for the inquisition.... [Updated] 47

Journal by FortKnox on Tuesday April 19, 2005 @12:27PM

Wow, already a new pope is elected. I haven't said much about the whole papal thang. John Paul II was a fantastic pope (even loved in the Middle East if ya believe it). Not only did he have an open mind, but he was very liberal for such a conservative spot.

Now, lets all pray that Ratzinger wasn't elected the new pope. Cause if he is, its inquisition, 21st century style (the dude is ultra old skool and is ultra strict)...

Update: Fucknugget.... Ratzinger is the new pope. If I wasn't so pissed off, I'd start singing "The Inquisition" song by Mel Brooks...

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Pope Pool (Score:1)

by Pirogoeth ( 662083 ) writes:

I'll assume you didn't pick him in your Pope bracket [comcast.net]?
Ratz (Score:2)

by Flamesplash ( 469287 ) writes:

Not only can you not use contraception, but you can't have sex unless you fully intend to conceive, and must have at least a 25% conception rate!
My choice (Score:1)

by Blackneto ( 516458 ) writes:

http://www.alaweb.com/~pandp/images/popelando.jpg [alaweb.com]
- Re:My choice (Score:2)
  
  by orange_6 ( 320700 ) writes:
  
  I busted out laughing when I saw that pic on Fark.
  - Re:My choice (Score:1)
    
    by Blackneto ( 516458 ) writes:
    
    yeah i'm a thief
speedy gonzales (Score:2)

by orange_6 ( 320700 ) writes:

Is it just me, or did that seem awfully quick?

Anyone know a mean time of past papal elections?
- Re:speedy gonzales (Score:1)
  
  by jawtheshark ( 198669 ) * writes:
  
  It is awful quick... I don't have any mean times, but usually it's counted in days.
- Re:speedy gonzales (Score:2)
  
  by Flamesplash ( 469287 ) writes:
  
  Paul I took 4 votes just like Ratzinger, Paul II took 4 days iirc.
Previous conclaves... (Score:1)

by arb ( 452787 ) writes:

No conclave in the past century has lasted more than five days, and the election that elevated Polish Cardinal Karol Wojtyla to into the papacy as John Paul II in October 1978 took eight ballots over three days.

Generally 3-5 days. This one seems to have been pretty damn quick.
I just turned on my TV (Score:1)

by jawtheshark ( 198669 ) * writes:

Now, lets all pray that Ratzinger wasn't elected the new pope.
It is Ratzinger! Fuck....
Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:2)

by nocomment ( 239368 ) writes:

Maybe Martini though? Does Ratzinger even support Vatican II? I'm not a Catholic so I don't follow these types of things.
- Re:Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:2)
  
  by ces ( 119879 ) writes:
  
  Ratzinger no doubt will try to undo as much of Vatican II as he can get away with.
  
  I'm sure the Opus Dei faction of the Church is overjoyed.
  - Re:Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:2)
    
    by FortKnox ( 169099 ) * writes:
    
    Ratzinger was one of the major forces FOR Vatican II. Go look it up.
    - Re:Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:2)
      
      by ces ( 119879 ) writes:
      
      Doh!
      
      I stand corrected.
      
      Ok, so he is conservative, but not *THAT* conservative.
      - Re:Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:1)
        
        by spoonyfork ( 23307 ) writes:
        
        It will be interesting to see how far down [reuters.com] the rabbit hole goes.
- Re:Hopefully not Ratzinger (Score:2)
  
  by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) writes:
  
  When you get the chance - its TOO BUSY right now - check this out:
  http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com [ratzingerfanclub.com]
  Keep in mind - this is what people who like him are saying! Ratzinger is the head of the Office of Inquisition!
  Escrivá Always Knew His Place, Says Cardinal Ratzinger [catholic-forum.com]
  And now, three cardinals who won't be pope [nationalca...porter.org]
  Cardinal Ratzinger on St. Escriva [opusdei.org]
  As a former Jesuit student, who is now at home with a kind of neo-platonism, I don't like it:
  Rome sends mixed signals on Jesuit contributions [hvk.org]
  Standing i
CNN reports it's Ratzinger (Score:1)

by johndiii ( 229824 ) * writes:

I'm not sure that this is a good thing. My take is that he has John Paul II's conservative social views, but does not come up to him in compassion.
- Re:CNN reports it's Ratzinger (Score:2)
  
  by Flamesplash ( 469287 ) writes:
  
  I've heard they just want someone to continue Paul II's track and not to start a new legacy, this may be indicative of why a 76 year old was elected.
I just heard... (Score:1)

by NeeNee3 ( 601111 ) * writes:

and am not pleased with Ratzinger.
As an Ex-Rom-Ca, all I can say is (Score:1)

by mekkab ( 133181 ) writes:

HA! RATZ! HAHAHAHAHA!

if you needed further proof that there is no god, then here it is.

Q.E.D.
- Re:As an Ex-Rom-Ca, all I can say is (Score:2)
  
  by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) writes:
  
  It's not proof of such -
  Just proof that the Catholic church is a manifestation of God's wrath... Like locusts and such.
  - Re:As an Ex-Rom-Ca, all I can say is (Score:1)
    
    by mekkab ( 133181 ) writes:
    
    Just proof that the Catholic church is a manifestation of God's wrath... Like locusts and such.
    
    2 points for innovative interpretation of signs!
    
    You've got a bright future in prophecy...
    - Re:As an Ex-Rom-Ca, all I can say is (Score:2)
      
      by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) writes:
      
      The name is Jeremiah :-)
      Lamentations, and whatnot, a specialty.
Recount coming? (Score:1)

by Pirogoeth ( 662083 ) writes:

Several cardinals are reported to have told the media that they were "confused by the ballot" and found the chalice "closed" when they went to cast their votes...
- Re:Recount coming? (Score:1)
  
  by mekkab ( 133181 ) writes:
  
  Obviously... I mean, they're voting in LATIN!
  
  /and you thought hanging Chads were bad! //Dominus, Epluribus, I missed the bus, you missed the bus, when's the next bus?
- Re:Recount coming? (Score:1)
  
  by eglamkowski ( 631706 ) writes:
  
  What do you think anti-popes are about? :-p
No longer Catholic (Score:2)

by enforcer999 ( 733591 ) * writes:

This is exactly why I do not attend a Catholic church any longer. They can keep their misogynistic faith and I for one want nothing to do with it.
- Re:No longer Catholic (Score:1)
  
  by johndiii ( 229824 ) * writes:
  
  I see this as the biggest problem that the Church faces going forward, keeping the majority of its members out of the hierarchy. My experience suggests that it is the mothers that keep people going to church.
  
  Of course, if B16 proves to be heavy-handed, the reaction might be a good thing...
  - Re:No longer Catholic (Score:2)
    
    by GreyWolf3000 ( 468618 ) writes:
    
    It's like that on the protestant side of things too...people usually don't care for the "authority" but love the friends and small group leaders they meet there.
  - Re:No longer Catholic (Score:1)
    
    by eglamkowski ( 631706 ) writes:
    
    I hate to sound like a flaming commie pinko, but you're looking at it from a wholly liberalized western viewpoint. In much of the world women don't have and don't expect any status anyways, so it's of no consequence either way to most people on the planet, including most of the members of the Catholic Church. It's just us westerners who have that "luxury", and the number of western (US/European) Catholics is small compared to the total number of Catholics in the world.
    - Re:No longer Catholic (Score:1)
      
      by johndiii ( 229824 ) * writes:
      
      I hate to sound like a flaming commie pinko...
      
      I don't think that you have it in you. :-)
      
      Valid points. The church hierarchy is dominated by people of western culture, specifically Europeans, though, and I would expect better of them. Whether it matters to the majority of the membership of the Church now or not, it likely will in the future. And I believe that getting women into the hierarchy will be a positive good.
I am just curious... (Score:1)

by HokieSeas ( 560745 ) * writes:

...how long he will actually serve, and what that will do to the church.

I don't really follow any of this in the details that others do, so my ponderings linger. The new Pope is 78. John Paul II was 60 (or so) when he became pope, and died at age 85.

So, you what, get a good 6 or 7 years out of him before you do this again? Just seems odd to me.
- Re:I am just curious... (Score:2)
  
  by loucura! ( 247834 ) writes:
  
  I think they bought the extended warranty.
The Inquisition... (Score:2)

by FirstNoel ( 113932 ) writes:

Let's begin,
the Inquisition,
Look out sin,
we're on mission,
to convert the Jews!
Dang /. I hit enter and it posted... (Score:2)

by FirstNoel ( 113932 ) writes:

Anyway,

That's what I said, I was hoping it wouldn't be him. Who knows maybe they'll kill'em off in a month like JP I.

Could be an interesting term.

Sean D.
Why? (Score:2)

by Alioth ( 221270 ) writes:

Why is he Pope Benedict the 16th, not Pope Joseph the Nth?

Is the name 'Benedict' like an IRC nick, something the cardinal chooses when being made Pope? Or do they choose it for him? Or is there a cycle, kind of how they name hurricanes?
- Re:Why? (Score:1)
  
  by johndiii ( 229824 ) * writes:
  
  The new pope picks the name that he will reign under. It's normally a signal of the type of papacy that he intends to have. JPI and JPII both explicitly intended to fuse the legacies of John XIII and Paul VI. I don't know anything about prior Benedicts, however, so I don't know what kind of message B16 is sending. It's possible that he just liked the name.
- Re:Why? (Score:2)
  
  by RevMike ( 632002 ) writes:
  
  You can choose when you become Pope. You can keep your own name, choose the name of a saint, or choose a name like Pius or Innocent.
- Re:Why? (Score:2)
  
  by LPetrazickis ( 557952 ) writes:
  
  It's a symbolic nickname. In Dan Simmons' atrocious Rise of Endymion, the new pope names self as Urban the Nth as a reference to Urban the 4th who started the Crusades.
  
  The last Benedict was a moderate. Presumably, Ratzinger wants to be a Unitificator, not a Dividesor.
  - Re:Why? (Score:2)
    
    by LPetrazickis ( 557952 ) writes:
    
    In the temporal sphere, King Henry III of France [wikipedia.org] was born Edouard-Alexandre. I am sure other examples frolic in history books.
oh well ... (Score:1)

by Triumph The Insult C ( 586706 ) writes:

i was hoping for tettamanzi myself. seemed much more of a warm soul than ratzinger. maybe that's just because he's paisan, like me tho =)

either way, God Bless il Papa
One more pope... (Score:2)

by neverkevin ( 601884 ) writes:

... then the armageddon :)

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.as p
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/18anvar.htm
- Re:One more pope... (Score:1)
  
  by Ashtead ( 654610 ) writes:
  
  At least his name seems to match. The listed motto Gloria olivæ for Pope Benedict 16 is explained by "The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order".
  One then begins to speculate if that's all there is to it. There seemed to be some dire events associated with Benedict 15. Is this perhaps a fateful name? Could he come into a situation of having to offer an olive branch of sorts to someone further down the line? And if so, why and to whom?
  On the other hand, the catho
at least... (Score:1)

by elmegil ( 12001 ) * writes:

He's picked a name that's not a new one; that should put the conspiracy nuts off for a bit.

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speedy gonzales (Score:2)

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Previous conclaves... (Score:1)

I just turned on my TV (Score:1)

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CNN reports it's Ratzinger (Score:1)

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I just heard... (Score:1)

As an Ex-Rom-Ca, all I can say is (Score:1)

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The Inquisition... (Score:2)

Dang /. I hit enter and it posted... (Score:2)

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