.50 BMG AP will easily go through that and only costs five bucks a round...

A good accurate rifle that fires it is under $8k. Cheaper ones exist as well.

That works in science fiction, it falls apart in the world we live in now...

There is nothing to bargain... I've had idiots try and form a union on me, I replied, "ok, go ahead and give 6% of your paycheck to someone else, just don't think that means your pay will go up any".

The simple fact is, as the owner I set the pay, you can take the job or not. I don't have to negotiate with you, either on a one-on-one basis, or collectively.

The only reason I have to raise pay is if I have job openings and can't fill them. If I have 50 resumes on my desk, you have no bargining power.

Yes, but Russia is not our enemy, despite what the rich want us to believe.

So did The Saint with Val Kilmer.

Neither are you, because they are not...

You bought a written-off, salvaged 2015 Ford and use that to claim Ford sucks?

I've been driving them for decades, cars and trucks, they are no more or less reliable than any other major car brand...

History is full of declining empires that took a lot of other people with them... they also didn't have thousands of nuclear weapons...

Try again sunshine...

The sign database is never going to be that accurate... humans and all...

As for missing it, yes... but I can look at the road and figure things out in a way that the computer cannot.

Again, self driving for 80-90% of driving is doable and quickly, probably in the next 5 years... that last 10% will take a complete rethink and overhaul of the road system...

You suck at math and politics... really, not joking...

Those dates mean nothing, learn how politics works. Then learn math on how many cars exit in the world and how many are made each year.

Try again sunshine...

Most rags are worth a penny, but WSJ generally is...

Then the sign is dirty, or covered by snow/ice/graffiti, or just knocked down... or placed wrong...

Self-driving will happen soon, but not completely self-driving... you'll still have to pay attention and it will only work in 80-90% of places, the last 10-20% is where major changes to the roads, construction areas, etc. will have to happen.

Those can all happen, and probably will, but not in the useful life of this car...

Yes, gas, quaint... it only powers 99.9% of all the cars in the world and will continue to so for a very long time...

But don't let facts and logic get in your way...

It isn't moronic... it is logic, but which do you know about that?

Remind me how many TOTAL cars Tesla has EVER sold? Ford sells that in a month...

A 2 year waiting list isn't hard when you are such a small company and can't make very many cars...

As for the price dropping, anything is possible, but that is highly unlikely, it would stomp all over the Model 3... but then I did say that the price was the primary problem, if they indeed get a Model 3 down to $17K (or even $20K) in 3 years, then fair enough, they could then sell millions of them...

But $35K is just way too much for what this car is beyond the "Cult of Tesla" buyers, which is all they are right now given the volumes...

Ahh, someone who has a badly outdated view of such things...

Toyota isn't what it once was, Ford isn't either... give Consumer Reports try, they talk about this in recent auto reviews, that the gap has closed and the old issues are largely gone...

Either way, the Model 3 is stupid over priced for $35K in terms of the actual car, putting aside the power plant. Its cost to own over 3-5 years is much higher than a similar gas car.