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Comment Re:Could somebody explain this? (Score 1) 36

That sounds like one of the master 3DES key for to generate Application Cryptogram on the chip cards has been leaked. Which is very unusal as those are highly guarded by HSM in place. And it's not the same RSA key to guard the certificates

the master key is used to derive into sub level card keys to used on each chip card.

The application cryptogram is generate on the chip card to uniquely identify the card and transaction context, and used by the EMV host to validate whether the card/transaction is geniune or not.

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Rolls-Royce Wants To Fill the Seas With Self-Sailing Ships (wired.com) 127

An anonymous reader shares a report: "Helsinki VTS, thank you for permission to depart," the captain says over the radio. He checks with the Vessel Traffic Service to see if there's anything to be looking out for. Just one other big ship, but also lots of small boats, enjoying the calm water, which could be hazards. Not a problem for this captain -- he has a giant screen on the bridge, which overlays the environment around his vessel with an augmented reality view. He can navigate the Baltic Discoverer confidently out of Finland's Helsinki Port using the computer-enhanced vision of the world, with artificial intelligence spotting and labeling every other water user, the shore, and navigation markers.

This not-too-far-in-the-future vision comes from Rolls-Royce. (One iteration of it, anyway: The Rolls-Royce car company, the jet engine maker, and this marine-focused enterprise all have different corporate owners.) The view provided to the crew of the (fictional) Baltic Discoverer is an example of the company's Intelligent Awareness system, which mashes together data from sensors all over a vessel, to give its humans a better view of the world. But that's just the early part of the plan. Using cameras, lidar, and radar, Rolls wants to make completely autonomous ships. And it's already running trials around the world.

"Tugs, ferries, and short-sea transport, these are all classes of vessels that we believe would be suitable for completely autonomous operations, monitored by a land based crew, who get to go home every night," says Kevin Daffey, Rolls-Royce's director of marine engineering and technology. Suitable, because they all currently rely on humans who demand to be paid -- and can make costly mistakes. Over the past decade, there have been more than 1,000 total losses of large ships, and at least 70 percent of those resulted from human error. [...] Moreover, the economic case for automating shipping is clear: About 100,000 large vessels are currently sailing the world's oceans, and the amount of cargo they carry is projected to grow around 4 percent a year, according to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. Beyond preventing accidents, human-free ships could be 15 percent more efficient to run, because they don't need energy-gobbling life support systems, doing things like heating, cooking, and lugging drinking water along for the ride.

Comment better worry about something else (Score 1) 385

I'd be more worry about handing your card to waitress at the restaurant than worrying about your contactless card being read remotely.

obtaining the data contactlessly is not enough to create a duplicate of your credit card(assuming proper card implementation), and certainly not enough to create a "card not present" transaction such as internet, mail, or phone purchase. (only exception is probably using pre-play attack, and this requires some elaborated setup)

A properly implemented contactless card don't even have your name in the contactless interface.

seriously, your credit card company is worrying more on the fraudulant transaction then you, and so there are fairly good measurements deployed to ensure contactless duping can't be done.

Comment Re:What's the big problem? (Score 1) 675

actually, most of the Chip enabled (EMV based) credit cards does have PIN, but they are just not set as preferred CVM (Cardholdver Verification Method). where predominantly it's set to prefer signature over online PIN.

EMV Chip cards offer one of the most important protection over traditional magnetic stripe only cards, which is counterfeit protection. During each EMV transcation the card will generate a unique Application Cryptogram which identify the card, and transcation using a secret key (shared only by card and the issuing bank). meaning EMV cards can not be cloned.

 

Comment Re:Chip and Pin (Score 2) 193

it's impossible to read the secret keys over any interface of the card. So those cloning devices at most is reading what normally a contactless terminal can read from a card. meaning those cloned cards will fail all the offline and online CAM (card authentication method) since none of the relevant keys (ICC Private Key, nor the Application Cryptogram secret key) can be read.

Unlike traditional magnetic stripe cards, chip cards has robust security build-in, most of the security breach are not from counterfeit cards, (since you can't clone the relavent data from EMV cards)

Comment Re:Got one of those cards (Score 1) 449

the card you just received most likely still supports PIN, just it's not preferred using PIN as the primary method for authorization (i.e. signature preferring). In most of the situation you will not notice any difference (especially in US).

you can still use the magnetic stripe as it's a requirement for credit card, however magnetic stripe is now a *backup* method for using your credit card. Again in US you won't notice any difference as most of the terminals only support magnetic stripe, however overseas in most other countries that already migrated to EMV, during a card transaction if you swipe the magnetic stripe the terminal will prompt operator to use the chip instead. Only when terminal has problem reading the chip then it'll allow physical magnetic stripe transaction for those chip enabled cards.

If it's a chip transaction, it's really close to impossible to clone the card assuming following good implementations, unlike magnetic stripe which can be easily duped

Comment Re:What about flat cards? (Score 1) 142

EMV chip cards does way more then just VERIFY the PIN. It can perform card authentication (card can not be counterfeit/hacked), risk management, and cardholder verification.

If I have to guess, those Chip & Sign cards issed in US are usually signature preferring (at least some PIN methods are still availible on the card, but the setting in the card will always prefer signature unless it's not possible) and not signature only cards.

Comment Re:Great for CC scammers (Score 1) 222

*barely more secure*? EMV cards can't be copied, modified, or counterfeited if the Card Authentication Method (SDA/DDA/CDA) are implemented propertly. The Application Cryptogram generated by the card and host also means the transaction itself is secure (assume proper card and host implmentation).

Magnetic stripes has no protection at all. US is probably the last major country that hasn't go full chip technology.

Comment Re:Chip-and-pin is not secure (Score 1) 236

EMV card is not as simple as that.. you have layers of security, such as Offline Card Authentication (Offline CAM), Cardholder Verification (PIN, Signautere..) and online CAM (where that MAC happens), unless you have means to obtain the private/secret keys required for transaction, it's going to be extremely hard to calculate

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