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  • my concerns are, and have been, the accuracy of this idea that the radical/violent element in Islam is a small minority. it was difficult to believe when the palestinians danced in the streets on 9-11. It is difficult to believe when Palestinians elect known terrorists to lead their government. And these violent protests all over the globe, make me wonder again. the kind of comments coming out of this, like saying that if they had killed Rushdie this would never have happened, makes me wonder. the viol
    • and I just wonder. my mind isn't made up. maybe, the vast majority of muslims are very peaceful people who have no problem with others living their own lives. maybe, i think that more of them are inclined to impose their values on others because all the media shows me are those willing to execute school children and blow themselves up, etc.

      There is a simple enough observation: If all or even merely most of the ~1.2 billion Muslims in the world were really the bloodthirsty maniacs they are portrayed to b

      • Blaming Islam is thus missing the point.

        I totally agree with that. I would say that the examples you have pointed out, and many more bear that out well. I completely agree that it is an issue of the human condition, as such atrocities do not need religion to be carried out. I think that those who blame all this on religion are forgetting the horror of atheist governments of the past and present. So if I talk about Islamic people or muslims, I do so only to identify the group, not to lay blame.
        • But I don't think that necessarily proves that the majority don't approve of or support violence.

          Approving of or supporting violence is a much more vague standard, though -- and after all, there were lots of calls to nuke Mecca in recent years from plenty of Americans and others. Ultimately, we can only judge people by their actions and not their thoughts, because only their actions can be objectively judged -- motivations are much harder to ascertain, sometimes impossible. Going beyond that basic assump

          • Ultimately, we can only judge people by their actions and not their thoughts, because only their actions can be objectively judged
             
            You are right. Talking with you always pays off.
      • I mention this from time to time when it comes up, so I don't know if you've seen me talk about it, but as far as I can tell, the ARAB muslims seem to be the most disposed to violence. And the arabs were possesed of a violent temperament long before islam came along, as the Romans and Persians both tell us in their histories centuries before Mohammed was born.
        • Actually, there is a broader observation: The closer a group lives to the Equator and in particular in a warmer zone, the more violent they tend to be.

          There are of course exceptions, as this is only an observed tendency, but I do think that hot weather causes us to act differently -- more violent, quicker to anger, and so on. Has nothing to do with race and a lot to do with physiology.

          Of course, let's suppose global warming turns out to go as predicted (independent of any policies we may take). If my su

          • Well, if true, as global warming continues, humans will kill off large numbers of each other. As there are fewer and fewer people, there were be reduced consumption of resources that cause global warming, which will then give nature time to balance the system and bring the temperature back down. As things get better, climatically, we'll increase our population, causing us to bring about more global warming, causing more conflict, etc.

            So why do you suppose it is that much of the land close to the equator h
            • So why do you suppose it is that much of the land close to the equator has come to be occupied by predominately muslim populations? (Other than in South America, of course.)

              Because of accidents of history. When the Muslim caliphate first arose, it spread along the path of least resistance. Southeastern Europe and much of the Levant was still occupied by the Byzantine Empire, which was strong enough to withstand them for centuries. (It was only when the Western Europeans backstabbed them that they really

  • Sadly, they perpetrate untrue and racist stereotypes of the Muslim community. The question should not be answered without being aware of the background.

    Untrue?

    When was the last time you saw Hindus rioting over the fact that other religions eat beef?

    When was the last time you saw Jews burning flags over the proliferation of pork products?

    When was the last time you saw Buddhists destroying the property of those who choose not to take part in their vegan lifestyle?

    It doesn't happen. Proper religions have PEAC
    • Proper religions have PEACE as a cornerstone of their faith. Proper modern societies have ACCEPTANCE as a cornerstone to being civilized. The islamofacists have neither. They can't even get along with themselves. Removing radical dissidents forcibly is the only way to ensure peace has a chance in coming decades.

      Except that not all, not even most, Muslims are the "Islamofascists" you (quite rightly) condemn. See my response to stoolpigeon above for the rest.

      Cheers,

      Ethelred

      • Whereas I understand your points, you also have to realize that the people themselves are prone to joining in the groups of extremists, instead of here in the civilized world, where small groups may join in the wreckless behaviours, but the society as a whole shuns and abhores it. My greatest hope is that the non-reactionary followers of Islam start standing up to the violent protesters in their words if not in their actions. Al-Jazerra has its fun stirring the pot whenever any anti-Western story comes ou
        • Al-Jazerra has its fun stirring the pot whenever any anti-Western story comes out. Instead of taking the radical approach, they should be encouraging calm among the people.

          Tell that to Bill O'Reilly. ;-)

          That's actually what I have said for some time: The media is having a field day with all of this, because it means a perfect opportunity to be in the limelight and sell newspapers. It frankly isn't in their short-term interest to play things down. On the contrary, the media lives off of controversy and m

        • Al-Jazerra has its fun stirring the pot whenever any anti-Western story comes out. Instead of taking the radical approach, they should be encouraging calm among the people.

          Sorry for the double response, but this might be a start. [aljazeera.net] AJ isn't really as radical as people portray it: It is, after all, in a sense what was once the BBC's Arabic bureau.

          Though they are just as guilty of misinformation and manipulation as CNN or Fox...not long ago I spotted a report (IIRC on FoxNews.com), for example, that used th

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  • ;) Jewish shopkeepers south of the border are buying them up to plant them around the border .
  • I'm wondering about all this uprising over these stupid cartoons. If they are blasting all these media outlets for running them, how did they find out about them if their media didn't report and show them? I'm referring specifically to the arabic papers here. Why all the nonsense uprising against other papers who are reprinting the cartoons, when they found out about it in the arabic countries by their local media reprinting them?

    Yes, I'd like a couple pints of hypocrisy please.
    • While there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around on all sides, from what I gather they weren't printed in Muslim newspapers, but spread by word of mouth among radical imams, via the Internet and so on. The Muslim mass media apparently had little to do with it.

      Though in a sense it was indeed the imams who were "publishing" the cartoons, so you may still have a point.

      What is a bit disturbing -- but unfortunately very human (depressingly so) -- is the likelihood that most of the rioters haven't even seen th

      • That's a bit harsh. If the imams aren't allowed to condemn the cartoons without showing them to their people, are they aren't allowed to show them to their people without hipocrisy, you've kind of painted them into a corner...
  • Looked up it's registry info, registered by "Domains by Proxy", a company in the US. Maybe I'm just wondering about the decent English grammar from a group of youth when the average US youth would be hard pressed to write half as well. Maybe I'm just being cynical.

    I think it'd be a great gesture if the parties that are claimed to have created the site did indeed. Still, I kinda wonder.
    • Doesn't really mean anything. Quite often European ISPs register .com, .org and .net domains in the US on behalf of their customers and/or through proxies.

      Cheers,

      Ethelred

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