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Comment Re: Echo chamber (Score 1) 826

Seriously, what is your financial situation today vs 2008? I'm really interested in the details here. I'll provide mine in the same way Trump WILL NOT. Provide details of how you were so oppressed over the last 8 years or shut the fuck up.

Gotcha, didn't I? But to answer your question. Worse off than if Obama wasn't "helping". Weaker job market and higher health insurance costs. But sure, I'm doing better than I was in 2008. But I could be doing better.

In 2008 my gross income was maybe ~130K. Last year it was 450K+. What possible fucking reason do I have to regret the last 8 years? I should love Trump's positions, but I have the extra personal burden of social MORALITY. Gotta admit, Obama was a reasonably socially liberal and pitifully financially conservative President. Based on his own statements Trump would be a horribly socially AND financially REGRESSIVE President.

Ah, the awesome burdens of the virtue signaler. Well, if you ever learn what "social MORALITY" is, you please let us too!

As to your money, do whatever you like with it as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Donate it, hoard it, buy a shiny boat, same difference to me. I have yet to care. But what exactly did Obama do to get that money for you?

I probably could have dropped the mike there, but can't... I realize I have been extremely fortunate compared to the average in the last 8 years (I am not in the 1%, but definitely the 2-3%) and have donated significantly to various charities. Have you? We know Trump hasn't, outside of his charity that paid for various lawsuits...

Can't say I'm in the top 2-3%. And I'm not playing the charity game. I loathe this sort of grandstanding as I've indicated before.

I notice here that you are heavily implying that any economic progress, no matter how painfully slow is only due to Obama helping it along. This sort of reasoning ignores that the US could have done absolutely nothing about the latest recession and still see an economic recovery by now. I think it'd be better than present due to an absence of "help" from a certain president, but opportunity cost is invisible.

Comment Re: Echo chamber (Score 1) 826

We were not discussing getting AWAY from politics, but discussing IT intelligently. To be honest /. is in the 90th percentile in that compared to most other social media sites.

Sure, we were, Mr. "I listen to people who just so happen to agree with me". Out of curiosity, how many of those knowledgeable, international, coworking groupthinkers you like to brag about thought Obama was hot stuff in 2008 and not so hot today? There's a problem with listening to ignorant political opinion even when it's sincere. Maybe you could figure out what that problem is.

Also, we don't have the social status thing going on in game play which you do have in an office setting. What's going to happen to the sap who professes that Trump may not be entirely utter crap? How much respect is that coworker going to get from you or the rest of your office?

My view is that listening to the opinion of people who don't understand US politics and who don't share the interests of US citizens, is pretty iffy. When you throw in a groupthink situation like an office or online echo chamber, then it's pointless to try to get relevant opinion.

Comment Re: Yeah but there's a whole world out there (Score 1) 826

ONE IN FOUR AMERICANS still think the Sun revolves around the Earth. Same number believes magic and witchcraft is real. One in THREE believes in ESP.

And THREE IN FOUR believe whatever polls tell them. Polling results tell you nothing about whether the poll was accurate, games played with biased polling questions, issues with sample size, or the strength of any beliefs. And if ONE IN FOUR AMERICANS actually believed the Sun revolves around the Earth (for the particularly crackpot claim from your list, which would actually require a radically different viewpoint of the world), you'd think someone other than a pollster would have found them by now.

That's a lot of people who somehow can't be found. In comparison, I've had no problem finding people who would profess some vague and inconsequential belief in magic, ESP, or "something more out there".

Comment Re: these new companies trying to get around old l (Score 1) 252

Sorry, but you've already been judged guilty of heinous crimes in my courtroom. I built it out of legos by my sofa. I'd upload a picture of the judgment - it's a really good scene, but my Geocities webpage isn't working at the moment.

As to your request, unfortunately, I don't have any ideas or links. But keep in mind that we're speaking of one of the sleaziest business schemes ever developed by man. It's not surprising that they're a protected ecosystem.

Comment Re:Waste of money (Score 1) 134

And yet quality of life in Norway is higher than in the US wealth is distributed a lot better and crime rates lower, same for Germany, if I can live like a Norwegian I don't care how much taxes I have to pay , why do you?

Norway has massive oil and hydroelectric resources per capita which completely explain its relatively high standards of living. Germany is slowly destroying its future (such as the doubling of electricity and elimination of nuclear power). I wouldn't be so hasty to emulate them.

Comment Re:Yeah but there's a whole world out there (Score 1) 826

Brexit happened because the UK has post-factual politics, and it's looking like the US is the same.

There's a lot of butthurt over Brexit and it hasn't even happened yet!

The internet and social media were supposed to improve democracy, but they seem to have reduced it to the level of memes and feelings counting more than facts and ability.

But don't let that slow you down.

Comment Re:Rover tech (Score 1) 134

You're a legged rover. One of the profound lessons of space development has been the incredibly stunted expectations of so many of its participants. Humans are the legged rover who can move a hundred times faster than anything on Mars today; who can overcome most obstacles; and who would do in weeks what it's taken current technology many decades to do. But they have a high upfront cost, requiring considerable infrastructure. That means you have to actually care enough about the deliverables like science, exploration, etc in order to pay that ante.

If you just want the appearance of doing something on Mars for many generations to come, unmanned is clearly cheaper.

Comment Re:Waste of money (Score 0) 134

Are you willing to change your lifestyle to make a difference? It doesn't cost you anything. It will likely even save you a few bucks (and be better for your overall health).

And the con continues. When Germany and Denmark did that, they doubled the cost of electricity. When the US did that, the cost of food increased worldwide. And the developed world has built a massive number of dead end renewable energy projects.

So to answer your question. No. I'm not buying the shit you're shoveling.

Comment Re:Waste of money (Score 1) 134

A manned mission won't provide much more details, rover missions would be enough for that purpose as well as orbiting satellites loaded with scientific instruments. That's how we acquire knowledge these days. Sad to say the direct human observation is no longer providing sufficient details and accuracy to be really useful.

Plus, we'll all be alive a few thousand years later when we've learned all there is to learn from Mars. No need to hurry or anything.

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