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Comment Re:Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich (Score 1) 841

Right, they're huge fans of free speech on /r/HillaryClinton.

The candidate subs should be hugboxes for the candidates, but the "neutral" ground should be open. Otherwise the sub where you're trying to organize your people gets spammed, or distracted with "questions" like "Gosh I'd love to vote for Clinton but do you think she's too corrupt to be elected?" and "I'm really worried she's going to crap her pants on stage tell me she can make it through?"

Comment Re:The U.S. ain't perfect, but... (Score 1) 524

Have you ever heard of the First Transcontinental Railway? Jesus, stop digging....

You mean that thing built entirely after the emancipation proclamation on which absolutely zero slaves worked?

Yes, using slave labour, just like Donald Trump wants to bring back,

Whoa, really, Trump is going to bring back slavery?! How much will they cost?! I'll buy two!

Oh wait you're pulling shit out of your ass.

Comment Re:The U.S. ain't perfect, but... (Score 1) 524

The notion that this is about criminalizing everyone is paranoia.

The selective enforcement issue is a serious concern, however, with any futile law.

The two go hand-in-hand. You criminalize everyone who makes political speech, and then only enforce on whoever you disagree with.

"We need more immigrants because this country is too white!" -- anti-white hate speech.

"We need to keep out immigrants because they don't fit our culture!" -- anti-immigrant hate speech.

Everybody's criminal, but the only one who'll get slapped down is whoever is currently "on the wrong side of history."

Comment Re:Trump is right on this, as on many things (Score 1) 524

I just don't care about "racism" as a political topic anymore. I'm not saying either of them are or aren't racist, but unless one of them is planning on bringing back slavery, neither could possibly be racist enough for it to matter compared to the other problems facing our country.

I care about increasing jobs, eliminating H1-B visas, restoring law and order, crushing ISIS and then beating feet out of the middle east. Oh, and keeping internet oversight in US hands.

So, unless he comes out and says "gas the kikes, race war now" he can't possibly be racist enough for it to matter in deciding my vote.

Comment Re: Does anyone care what Trump thinks? (Score 1) 524

1. The birther thing wasn't inherently racist. Obama's publicist listed on his bio that he was born in Kenya for 16 years, and he was advertised as the first Kenyan-born editor of the Harvard Law Review, and PBS ran stories about how exciting and diverse it was that a Kenyan-born man became a senator. Obama never bothered to correct them until he ran for president, and which point he was suddenly born in Hawaii. It's not a racist accusation to ask if he was mistaken or lying for those 16 years or if he's mistaken or lying now. That's also why people wanted to see his college records that he had sealed. Did he claim Kenyan birth on his application forms? We don't know.

2. Hillary's campaign absolutely started the birther thing. They even sent investigators to Kenya to try to track down proof of his birth there. The "Party Unity My Ass" pro-Hillary forums were abuzz with the prospect of winning the nomination if they could prove Obama was ineligible.

3. There's nothing racist about any of that. However it's good PR for Obama to be able to accuse his opposition of racial motivation. It seems to have worked on you. This is why he didn't just release his damn birth certificate and prove everybody wrong. When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt them.

4. Trump said nothing about it for 3 years, and then started talking about it and two weeks later Obama produced the birth certificate. Trump didn't start the birther thing, he ended it.

You're looking at all of this very two-dimensionally instead of thinking from a political messaging point of view. You're smarter than this Bruce. Don't look at what the media says, look at what people do, and what the results are.

Comment Re:The U.S. ain't perfect, but... (Score 1) 524

Personally the problem I see is that the law is that it is futile. The people who it targets are, to put it bluntly, mentally defective. A law is not going to stop them.

It's not about stopping anyone. It's about being able to criminalize everyone and then selectively enforce the laws only against your political opposition. No one is ever going to arrest a Jewish opinion columnist for droning on about how white people are evil and hateful, but you can bet your ass they'll come down on people who condemn Israeli treatment of Palestinians.

Comment Re:The U.S. ain't perfect, but... (Score 1) 524

What's funny is that the "Great America" that the Donald aspires to was built on immigrants

European immigrants from compatible cultures, and some very compliant "model immigrant" east asians. And when people came here, we treated them like shit until they adapted to the American way of life, we didn't give them welfare, so a third of them skedaddled right back where they came from if they couldn't hack it. Today we're trying to change America to accommodate every backwards POS culture on the planet and failing.

and slavery

Bullshit. The slaves didn't build crap. They picked cotton providing cheap labor for the 2-4% of Americans who owned slaves. It didn't help anybody else and the south was destroyed in the Civil War and took 100 years to recover. That "Great America" was built by white northerners.

What Donald really means by making America great is do things that sound great to rednecks, but in practice throw the country down the toilet.

You're right, the real way America's going to colonize Mars is to import illiterate inbred 85 IQ religious fundamentalists from the 3rd world by the millions. Anything else would be throwing the country right down the toilet.

Comment Re:The U.S. ain't perfect, but... (Score 1) 524

And if that's your true motivation then it's the argument we should be having.

Why can't it be both? I don't want terrorism, nor do I want the balkanization of multiculturalism. Our social fabric is already coming apart. Every racial and religious group has their own interests and is screaming at each other and we've got race riots in the street. Ya know what we should add to the mix? More people from a xenocidal culture that has proven over and over again through history that it cannot coexist with any other culture for long periods of time, even itself.

The Democrats want more immigrants because votes, the Republican establishment donors want cheap labor, and the interests of American citizens who just want happy comfy little lives in familiar communities that aren't ripped apart by ethnic or religious conflict be damned.

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