You mean the nuclear playboys agitating to spend OUR MONEY on foolish bullshit that we don't need, and in fact we'd get more for OUR MONEY elsewhere? Your childish vagueposting doesn't specify and there's no need to announce your departure as this is not an airport, just fuck off already.

You're not accounting for lifecycle footprint, and you're also using an irrelevant metric. We have lots of room for solar.

It's not an either-or discussion? So you're going to pay for both things to happen? Because here in the really real world, budgets are finite.

You seem to be latched on to numbers that don't matter in order to justify your OOH NEATO GLOWING ROCKS MAKE POWER fetish.

So what does that have to do with you?

With dry-cooler-based designs, itâ(TM)s a closed-loop system with no evaporative water cooling â" outside of maybe 1% of the year when we might need chillers in some climates.â

Which in the really real world of global warming, can rapidly turn into a lot more than 1%. And designs like what's described above are IN THE MINORITY.

If you want to present yourself as knowing something about a subject, you'd better not immediately prove you don't, as you did here.

So then why are you bothering to howl? IDGAF, even a little bit.

While this is true, those jobs are few in number.

Historically, little. The bulk of DCs have typically been located where people could go to them because that used to be more necessary, and therefore they were concentrated around tech firms. And they were planned out years in advance, and mostly sited where it made sense. They also weren't maximally power-dense, as there were other considerations. AI DCs are more power intensive, as they're shoving as many processors and as much memory as possible into every rack. And they're building them fast and desperately, so anywhere they can find to cram them in.

That means yes, noise issues, but also lots of other problems associated with rapidly installing extremely power intensive facilities in awkward locations when infrastructure is already strained. Resulting issues with power and water availability are now well documented.

Good thing they are nowhere near having a monopoly then

I agree. The existing players themselves would increase capacity in hope of outcompeting one another if they thought this would last.

Nope. There will be more idiots behind them.

Things systemd doesn't do for 200, Alex

Rent free.

Yeah but in practice virtually zero of them are actually closed loop. Even when it is claimed they are there is often a cooling tower which is used sometimes, which means they only sometimes operate in a closed loop mode.

Godwin's law obviously has no modern relevance given that it was invented for USENET and that was effectively destroyed.

Now seriously though it never spoke to whether or not the comparisons to Hitler were apt, as that is situational, only that they would occur.

And sidebar, Mike Godwin explicitly stated that such a comparison is apt when it comes to der pedofuhrer. Just like to toss that in there.

This is why there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. The worst people have the most money because they have no compunctions about harming others.

It doesn't actually provide that because of the things you can't do in unit files without scripts.

When systemd proponents can construct a non-fallacious argument maybe I'll consider taking it seriously

There is no value to running SteamOS on your PC over some other distribution except simplicity. If you actually want to do non-game things with it you'll wind up installing enough additional packages to erase the benefit. If you want simplicity, you'll also buy a steam machine, so you don't have to figure out the PC.