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Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

https://www.halliburtonwatch.o... [halliburtonwatch.org]

A contract to rebuild destroyed oil fields is plunder? Need I define that word for you, because you seem to have become confused about it.
It's easy to put on your tinfoil hat and say, Cheney, Halliburton, Bush, Oil- but Cheney's assets were 100% in a Blind Trust during the administration. Halliburton got the contract, which was a fraction of its yearly revenue, because it was the only company there was to do the work.
That money went from the US tax payer, to the Iraqi citizen, to pay for the damage we had wrought to their principle source of national revenue.
If that is how you define plunder, we're going to have to further argue this with an open dictionary.

https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]

This is the tinfoil-hat ramblings of an idiot.
The work of the National Energy Policy Development Group is understood, and it wasn't, "Take those middle easterners oil, hayuck!"
That isn't to say it was benign, but again- if its goal was plunder then it uhhh, well, failed.
What its goal really was, was to wield US soft power to make sure the world energy market looked like it wanted it to look.

https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]

I love that there is a list of undeveloped resources, and list of foreign companies which could develop them, and you see it as plunder.
That's how fucking thick your tinfoil is.
The maps of Saudi Arabian fields don't confuse your point? They should, and would, were there any intellectual honesty in it.

The full plan for taking over the Iraqi oil deposits by no-bid "privatization" to US companies did eventually fall apart, but to pretend plunder plans weren't the main reason for the war is just ridiculous in the face of so many long-established facts to the contrary.

The word plunder has a meaning, and you either do not know it, or are misusing it dishonestly.
Honestly, I'm not sure which it is.

You must have missed the January 3rd joint operation of the Little Cartel of Rodriguez and the Trump crime family in Venezuela and the "oil deal", which trumpy thought will apply in Iran as well.

Jesus. Are you fucking stupid?
That crime family bullshit is precisely what you called it.
But the moron organizing a setup where US companies can invest in the development of undeveloped fields so they can make money (even though Venezuelans will make the lion's share?!) is not plunder.
It's just the hegemonic behavior of a moron.

The problem here, is that you're as fucking dumb as he is.

Ah, well, your disconnect with reality is well-known.

You accuse me of disconnection, while speaking through 8 layers of tinfoil, lol. That is amusing.

Comment Re: Found another commie troll account (Score 1) 158

Well...I'm pretty happy,

Certainly I don't need to point out why that is a tellingly ignorant answer.

But sure, you can say capitalism sucks...BUT, it sucks a whole lot less than every other type economy ever tried on earth to date.....

Oh, I'd say that goes flatly in the face of a lot of evidence to the contrary.
End-stage capitalism is real, and we're in it. We will course correct, or we will collapse.
Commentary like yours makes me think we're too stupid to course correct, and collapse is the only tool Darwin has to wash you out of the decision making process.

Comment Re: humanity (Score 1) 64

As I said, it's a cultural difference between Americans and everyone else.

No, it's not. You're trying to rope further misuse of the word into a Royal We to grant it legitimacy where it has none.

Hostile. I asked a question. A complaint is a statement.

That wasn't me, and hostility isn't hatred- particularly when the hostility is debatable.
I can reframe that hostility in a hateful way if you'd like a clear example.

The American public not entitled to American tax money? That's hostile towards Americans. I'm not sure what 'wildlings' means in this context, but not something positive.

That wasn't me, and in what disconnected universe do you think Americans aren't the ones that voted what to do with their tax money?
You are against completely misusing hostility. I'm becoming more convinced that this is a language barrier. English is not your first language, is it?
Wildlings- If I had to guess, I'd say he assumed you were Canadian, and referred to you as Wildlings as a Game of Thrones reference... Honestly, pretty fucking funny. And while crude, his point does ultimately stand.
Certainly the Canadian could have gone up on a Canadian rocket capable of getting a human payload to lunar orbit? Cough.

Again, so blinded by hate. I never said I was 'entitled' to anything.

That wasn't me.
It's also just a point of fact. A fact is not hateful.
From their perspective, you have a non-American ignorantly declaring that a rocket is responsible for our "high gas prices" (which wherever you are likely to be from in this world, are lower than yours- considerably), and "high tariffs", which are definitely a headache, but not remotely out of alignment with other foreign tariff regimes.
I.e., I suspect they didn't take you seriously, because frankly- there's enough ignorance there that someone arguing from that position shouldn't be taken seriously.

Also the fact that my question was ignored and the "answer" made is irrelevant to it is also hostility. You may be able to redeem yourself by actually providing an honest answer to the question, but I don't expect one.

We are going to have to add "question" to the list of English words you are confused about.
The statement: "Well I'm not American, but if I was American I would like to feel like tens of billions of dollars of tax money didn't go towards nothing. Especially if I was paying high gas prices and high tariffs already under the guise of reducing the deficit. Just saying." contains no question. Me pointing that out is not hostility, and in the limited sense that it can be interpreted as such, doesn't remotely rise to hatred.

You may be able to redeem yourself by actually providing an honest answer to the question, but I don't expect one.

I'm going to assume you're actually referring to your initial question:
"Can anyone explain how this has moved humanity ahead?".

I believe that question has been rhetorically answered by many people here.
How have you moved humanity ahead?
I think you don't understand why that's a relevant answer to your question. I think that's the case because, as your ignorant positions seem to indicate, you're just not a very intelligent person. And no, that is not hostility or hatred. It's an observation.
Wherever you are from- you demonstrate a failing of your education system. I'm glad the US isn't the only one suffering a modern breakdown in this regard.

Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

The arms industry gets its money either way. What do you think our defense budget goes to?
Obviously for some country with a hibernating defense industry, it would make sense for the military industrial complex to try to start wars.
Here in teh good ol' US of A, there's no need. We're happy to vote for trillion dollar defense budgets year after year, and this war, like the others, isn't going to appreciable move that needle. It just means less shit will be thrown away.

Comment Re: humanity (Score 1) 64

I don't even know how to process this... You are objectively and definitionally incorrect. Is this a language barrier? Is English perhaps not your first language, and you're mixing up the definition of some hate-analogue in your language with the English version of the word?

hate (n):
1a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury
1b : extreme dislike or disgust : antipathy, loathing
1c : a systematic and especially politically exploited expression of hatred
2 : an object of hatred

hatred (n):
1a : extreme dislike or disgust : hate
2 : ill will or resentment that is usually mutual : prejudiced hostility or animosity

Please point on the doll where the big bad American hated you.

Comment Re:Good (Score 1) 158

I make very good money (I live in an area where that's pretty normal).
My liquid assets have varied from less than $500 to almost 6 figures, mostly depending on how badly I'm letting it burn a hole in my pocket, so I'm inclined to agree.
The "doesn't have $500" measure is utterly meaningless without more information.
I'm not typing this on a $7,100 laptop because living expenses are kicking my ass, but I've spent some time in that category while being dumb.

Comment Re: Found another commie troll account (Score 1) 158

"Upper ranks of middle class grow" together with "lower ranks of middle class shrink" is pretty much the same is "middle class is disappearing".

Correct.

Which is the epitome of a REALLY BAD economy, grounded in strong wealth inequality, not a good one.

Hate to play the Devil's Advocate here, because I do agree that it's REALLY BAD for other reasons, economically- I don't see it.
I'd say the better argument is that we should be evolved enough now to know that a highly successful capitalist economy is maybe not the best goal for human happiness, even if it does seem, empirically speaking, to produce the most powerful economies on the planet.

Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

Ya, sorry. That's idiocy.
Bush was a dumbfuck, but unlike the current dumbfuck, at least he wasn't dumb enough to think there was "plunder" to be had in the oil reserves of an occupied country.

It's 20-fucking-26, and dumbasses are still spreading the fucking "lives for oil" meme?
It didn't pass the smell test then, and it really doesn't now, especially when we actually have a President fucking dumb enough to say, "we're going to take their oil!" and every single fucking US company in that trade goes, "uhhh, in what universe is that profitable for us?"

It's like the dude watched people like you say that shit, and actually thought it was backed by reality. It's fucking astonishing.

Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

I'll grant your argument more weight if you can demonstrate cui bono.
Who gets rich off of knocking over the Venezuelan regime? The Iranian regime?

The cui is just some asshole President, and the benefit isn't economical (at least until he tries to sell President of Iran hats).
At least with Bush, there were oil connections (and more so with Cheney, really), even if all of the conspiracy theories as to cui bono there simply didn't pass critical muster.

I'm not going to say that resource wars aren't a thing, but some petty wannabe dictator going after easy targets looking to stack his grandiosity under some misinformed idea of how oil economy works isn't an example of what you're claiming.
There's a reason no US countries jumped up to take stewardship over Venezuelan oil.
If you were to count Venezuelan oil as a US 2P reserve, it won't become a 1P reserve within our lifetimes- i.e., economically exploitable by us.

Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

First, there's still plenty of people with stupid money to spend. It's not the majority of people, but it's the majority of money.

Na. That money doesn't flow for shit.
The amount you need doesn't scale linearly with the amount you have.
It's a dead end.

Second, the rich folks can still get even richer, simply by taking money from one another when there's noone else but one another to take it from. We call that "war". Of course it's not them, it's us who'd die in that war. (But who cares, right, it's not like we're good for anything else (...with nothing, not even our buying power, left to contribute?...)

Ya, at the point where the rich are virtual nation states, my original post goes right out the window.

What happened in Iran and Venezuela is pretty much how it's done. And not over yet by a very, very long stretch.

lolwut?
Iran and Venezuela are nothing but some old fuck trying to make a legacy for himself, and being literally fucking dumb enough to think "we can take their oil!!!", because that's what the dumb motherfuckers he surrounded himself with told him that Bush did.
The economic value of those 2 countries is 4 squirts of piss in the grand scheme of things.

Comment Re: I think it would be a good idea.. (Score 1) 88

The paper was metaphorical ;)
The form of money doesn't really matter.
There was never a [practical] limit to how much you could make when it came to fiat currency. That's the brilliance and the danger of the system.

Need for wars of plunder? Gonna have to roll my eyes right there.
You really think Iran and AI are connected?
Global debt is around $340 trillion USD.
You think Cheetoh is waving his cock around in the hopes of gleaning $40 trillion from a country with a GDP 1/10th that of the fucking State of California?

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