some have suggested that's just because it has more or less illegally webscraped the entirety of stackoverflow and reddit, so you're really just doing a resource-intensive google search to find the right stack overflow question/answer page, without either of those sites getting any credit for it.

That's what it comes down to. When you start vibe-coding, you're no longer really coding, and you're not even really creating anymore.

You're just editing. All you're doing is code reviews and quick bug fixes...and those tend to be my least favorite parts of my job.

At least code-reviewing a junior developer, you're teaching, mentoring, instilling some new disciplines or expanding their horizons.

There's no satisfaction in doing that to a bot. Especially because the next time it codes something for you, it is going to come up with something completely different as if the 'experience' you tried to give it doesn't matter anymore.

Yeah, maybe it gets the job done...but I'm not in this to 'get the job done'. If this is what the job was or is going to become, then I'll quit, do my own coding on the side for open-source or other projects, and just make money as a substitute teacher... ...that is, if I didn't have to pay for health insurance, but America sucks in that regard and always will.

Again, they think they can change this crap whenever they want. Computers don't work that way. Anything that involves scheduling a future event is now a problem. If they stored it in pure UTC (just a TZ offset) or EPOC, it will be an hour off. Every single calendar event could be an hour off.

because aside from the core GNU/Linux stuff, there's not a lot of C++ out there compared to TS/JS and shell (or even Python and perl and php).

C++ coding is rarely just 'raw'. usually the bulk of what you're doing is integrating multiple libraries together. How do you talk to your database? How do you create an API and/or a webpage and/or a UI? Each of these decisions requires integration that isn't published as well as the thousands of examples out there on stackoverflow for an AI to gobble up.

So internally, a team might start using AI to expand on its own code-base...but nobody is going to use AI to create a project from scratch in C++ unless speed is the #1 concern...and usually if you're heading to AI, speed of the product is not the #1 concern: speed of getting it out the door is. The AI is not going to know how to use the libraries a complex C++/C# system needs to integrate with because those are generally paid and proprietary (again, outside of GNU/Linux and Linux open source systems like gnome/gtk or kde).

we'll see within a year if AI starts getting involved in making linux desktop apps, but most windows developers will more likely use copilot for C# as Microsoft keeps training it.

I wonder if it is related to the uncertainties that come with the mid-term elections. Almost every one so far since 2006 [exception: 2014] has seen the House flip which invites a whole new relationship with the President (usually antagonistic) and with it a huge increase in uncertainties that tend to drop a lot of markets for a time. So maybe they're selling to ride it out in more stable things (like international stocks and, well, you've likely noted the price of gold is exploding...)

a social media bubble before social media became a 'thing'.

he started a blog and the comments started to taint things - feeding his ego by praising how much he knows about office life and then convincing him that he's therefore an expert at everything...and then when others challenged some of his claims or 'questions' (of the "just asking" type), he doubled-down because the applause from the right-wingers on his feed was louder. We respond to positive reinforcement until we're aware of it, and he (like others we could name) never really became aware of it, never became aware of the biases building and hardening. he treated the questions as an attack on him (like others we could name)

And then the 'all conservative positions are the same conservative positions' started kicking in. Having decided he's "right" in agreeing with some things, he falls into agreeing with almost all of them.

His vaccine denialism was the last straw for me, but if I'd known about his holocaust denialism sooner, I'd have quit dilbert-reading back then. somehow that had missed my circles at the time.

Isn't Win32 written in C in any case? Does anyone really USE all that COM+ stuff for anything useful? It's hard to imagine even an AI could write a worse COM layer than what is currently in Windows.

I kind of welcome a new version of Notepad.exe written in Rust as long as it doesn't have tabs. Maybe it'll only have half as many bugs as the original version?

PS - Sorry if I'm just skimming the surface here, I was never smart enough to understand much C++. I barely managed to get my head half-way around Java where everything was descended from java.lang.Object instead of some mix of new char[] and void* using RAII.

PPS - Can I PLEASE hope for a web-browser that wasn't written by Google (like MS Edge)? (No offense to that one company but I can only put so many eggs in one basket)

We all want that relaxed, let the "personal agent" do it for you lifestyle when it comes to things like vacation plans, buy the next book as you see i've finished the current one, coordinate my business meetings, and order flowers for the wife's birthday - all that "and the company that will bring it to you stuff" predicted back in the early 90s.

Now finaly that the tech is here that can do it...none of us (and rightly so) trust the corporations operating them, or the rest of the network, to let them actually do it.

https://developers.slashdot.or... pretty much covered my thought about job satisfaction. If all you're doing each day, hour after hour, is "code reviews", that seems to me a really shitty job.

One reason vibe-coding is catching on with smaller firms is that, well, AI is "free" to them right now. I can go download Visual Studio Code, and get CoPilot for free...or maybe I ditch that and put Claude on it. Doesn't matter. I could still use it to generate code and hey, I'm not paying a thing.

They're getting "inexperienced junior developers" for free.

But 2 problems with that. The obvious one is noted above several times: how do you get senior, experienced developers when you haven't trained any junior developers (and don't think you're REALLY training the AI on your business model and real use cases - at any moment the engine host can just toss out a bunch of institutionalized memory for cost reasons and you're fake junior developers are as dumb as when you first started.

At some point, unless they just want the job and that's that, a code *editor* is going to get sick of editing. Maybe they won't, I don't know for sure...but I sure as hell know *I* would get sick of editing junk code day after day after day. There's no joy in it. There's no satisfaction. It is just the job, nothing more.

Now the second problem: when will they stop making it free?

This crap is expensive (as anybody following news headlines goes). And small firms and individual developers aren't paying for it. The big companies are by taking out loans against their stock values (case in point, Oracle, which took a huge 1/3rd of a drop in value for doing so).

So at some point, like with every free service that gets enshitified so that it can be somehow paid for, AI code generation will be no different. They're going to have to do SOMETHING to turn this free service into something that makes money. Licenses for improvements, a limit on number of prompts per day, advertisements showing up in the comments that the code generator generates, maybe even they'll start creating code that requires you to have a commercial library license and they won't generate 'clean' (zero derivative) code unless you pay separately, and then throw in all the vendor lock-in that goes with that.

All those things that already happen for "free" AI services online like photo cleanups. They'll have to start doing it here to recoup the huge investments.

We'll see how that changes the way this stuff is seen.

At every level of speech expression, there's a corporation involved. Nobody exists on the internet without any at some point.

So maybe I leave the 'big' social media and news sites (including youtube) and just host a blog as an ISP on a dedicated domain and VM? Nope, now my hosting provider is liable. So instead I just self-host my publishing on docker containers? Nope, because then my domain name provider and/or dyn-dns could be held liable.

They'll always have some corporation to threaten at some point to take my words off the 'net, by twisting what the word 'publishing' means...and I'm not paying any of these companies enough for them to be willing to defend me.

Yes, that's a slippery slope argument. Of course it is. And we've seen it over and over that conservative overlords will follow the slippery slope. The entire set of ideas in Project 2026 is exactly that - having achieved so much of P2025 they want to slide the slope into the next steps into pure fascism.

note, that was a napkin calculation - i didn't know they started dividends as late as 2011, and I don't know the dividend per share. i just put some numbers in to give the impression, but unlike certain politicians, I'm not trying to prove a point to influence policy decisions. Thought experiment, nothing more. :)

yeah, i just did a check. Adjusting for inflation, the stock price would need to be around $154 to be comparable in value. (Assuming total volume has remained relatively constant in that time).

that is, at $80 now, that means the stock is really worth only $42 in 2000 dollars.

So it is a number that's the same, but the value of $80 if you held onto it this entire time is still far less than you had when you started. Dividends won't quite add up to that gap - if 50c per share per quarter, and you kept the cash, that's $50 per share...but that's been spread out across inflation, so you'd have to curve the value down for what the more recent 50c means vs 50c 25 years ago. I'm not in the mood to run the calculus, but i'm gonna wager it still falls a little short.

How is this not hilarious? I mean I know someone who's favorite Christmas Greeting is "Merry Bah-Humbug." But Still !!!

ROTFLMAO (BBQ)

The irony of the NYTimes complaining on copyrights given their history of reporters found guilt of or complicit in plagiarism is not lost to me.