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Submission + - SPAM: The Problem with the Political Discourse I'm the USA

BitterEpic writes: Hey all, I've been studying the political behavior here in Slashdot to see and understand the state of America. (I don't have a want to create a Facebook or Twitter account...I can only take so much toxicity.)

There were some interesting outcomes and I'll share them here. Some are expected and some are less so.

By far the strangest outcome, as well as the most concerning, is that for the extreme complaints about the safety our democracy, there os no interest in trying to increase collations. There seemed to be predawn conclusions that are used to try to alienate and dehumanize these other Americans as unsavable. "Sinners who can't repent," if you will. "These people who voted # are all #." Or, "They will be the dog that caught the car."

This leads into another interesting finding: It's anyways assumed that catching the car wasn't an intentional outcome or that there may be reasons. I don't see people being able to put themselves into other people's shoes leading to strange anger. It's highly irrational.

The next interesting outcome is that the most angry of these groups are usually repeatedly referencing speculative information or using facts without context. What I mean to say here is, news that tells you how to interpret events is used to create a vacuum with only one correct answer, ignoring other view points and tradeoffs. Also ignoring that there are many cultures in America which is in no way homogenous.

For all of social media we seem to use, we seem to have forgotten basic social skills. You are likely to be pulled into bubbles of our own media and friends, decreasing the ability to emphasize with someone different from us. And if you watch the news, you are likely getting a constant stream of information intended to scare and lock you into listening.

Slashdotters, what do you think is required for Americans to have healthy conversations again? I feel that the current behaviors will just continue to rip the US apart.

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Comment This is a gamble (Score 0, Insightful) 112

If there are not some noticable outcomes before elections, his party is toast. I believe there is a year before midterms and 3 until the next presidential election.

We employ a lot of people in car manufacturing and the country is proud of it. I'm not really sure why the liberal side says that similar manufacturing just can't be done in the US.

I also hear some complaint that it will take decades so we shouldn't even try. If you count the presidencies since Obama, we will soon be hitting 20 years of effort in manufacturing. It sounds like "decades" is a scare term not to try.

Why isn't there deeper discussion on these policies here in slashdot?Everything is always so topical with no critical thinking.

I can't reasonably have a conversation with you if you're threatening me or using deragotory language. That is honestly what I see most of the time.

Comment A technology showcase (Score 0) 79

The icons weren't chosen because they were good UI design, but as a technology showcase for the fidelity. It definitely helped with the retina display transition. The fact the labels in the HD icon are readable is almost silly.

I still like them more than modern design. All of the icons on my phone look the same, making text search the only valid option often enough. Just white symbols surrounded in predefined color blobs that often have overlapping styles..

Comment Re: We'll see the impact of this (Score -1) 120

It's genuinely interesting doing this in a twisted way. The perversion is that I don't think all families who were in this incident turned anti-gun. This is a sampled subset of people used to represent them all.

In some ways it's making a circus is the others who lost children. It's important to remember that.

I believe PBS was interviewing a person who was going to die from covid. The guy was trying his hardest to say it was his choice and he said people should be able to make their own choice.

Being unable to have a deeper conversation like this is why I think slashdot is going down hill.

ArchBunker, I think your proud of cheapening the situation.

Comment Re:We'll see the impact of this (Score -1, Troll) 120

ArchieBunker, your response reminds if of how people are unable to have real conversations or debates. This is also emphasized by the troll rating I received. These kind of answers are why the country is falling apart. Come back to me if you want to have a deeper conversation... but I think you are just a rockstar troll. Anyway, I'll try to go deeper for anyone reading despite you.

Like I said, I had some crazy democrats try to hurt my family because I'm a white male. I'm handicapped, and my family is international and multiracial. I was dragging myself around the ground when I had a crazy person on the Democrat size try to hurt my family. My family is mostly dead. I almost died of cancer. I've had a lot of death in my self. This is what you are mocking, and it disappoints me.

The Democrats are going down the, "Hey the republicans are violent, we can be violent back!" whole. The democrats also have a good history of tampering with candidates to make sure there is no actual choice. It's not a great spiral for the country if everyone thinks that is what they should be doing to each other.

I wrote an essay on guns to get a scholarship for a japan exchange. I live in Japan where guns are illegal and the popular weapon is stabbings. Those would be interesting things to talk about, but your response is "The amount of unironic projection in your post is staggering."

I don't think the US has any interest in talking to try to work through problems and coming to consensuses. There is no interest in understanding there are multiple cultures in the US and different needs to match them. Do you realize the world is watching how the US is treating people they can't convince enemies?

Comment We'll see the impact of this (Score -1, Troll) 120

It's okay to try to convince voters into your side of an argument. I sometimes feel like the Democrats are starting to care less about Democracy to try to further their goals. You know, by doing things like propping up what they consider as unelectable candidates.

If the country really believes this is a thing, you would expect more efforts to amend the Constitution.

The majority of my family is dead. But none of it was from a gun.

Comment Re: Fine (Score 1) 131

This sounds like one of those Rachel Maddow arguments that never come to fruition. The tarrifs have gotten pretty far with no intervention. I think we can both agree that in modern times presidents often use executive orders for things they shouldn't.

Let's be honest, the current republican Congress will allow this because they don't have to shoulder any political fallout. If it becomes a democratic Congress, maybe that will change.

Comment Re: Fine (Score 1) 131

We will have had 3 presidents for 12 years trying to bring industry back to the US. If you count Obama trying to stop the gush with the auto industry it's closer to 20

Trump took the hard part of the terrif negotiations where Democrats basically have a free slate when they come back. I don't think well see the terrifs go much lower than they are now at 15%

One of my concerns with the Democratic media is that the excuse that bringing industry back will take decades is a reason to not even try. The other concern is after 20 years, when does this effort start counting toward "decades?" What is the meaning of "decades" here?

One of my other concerns is that the Democrats seem to think other countries can terrif us, but we shouldn't mutually do it back to level the playing field.

Comment Re: Democrats aren't fine with them (Score 1) 131

The Democrats are losing because of a number of issues. I think the largest ones where shooting Biden in the back and ignoring voters. Third the party is riling up its supporters in the same way Trump did in the insurrection.

And yes, you can make some arguments that Fox forces the liberal media to cover fake news.

I voted for Biden. I voted for Harris in the primaries. My wife is Japanese, and I'm handicapped. I had a deep Democrat woman at work try to hurt my family when I couldn't walk. It fucked me up fir a while

The rhetoric of the Democratic party makes it target unjustly white men. It makes people crazy.

The cowirker told me she helps in counting voting not because that she wants to help with democracy... but she only cares about helping the Democrats win.

silvergun, the words you say makeme think you're a sick fuck who only cares about riling up people with take arguments. I don't believe you care about Democracy at all or that people have the right to choose things that might not be the best for them.

Comment Life can be hard (Score 1) 198

Undergrad send me homeless for a period of my life where I lost everything. That is how student loans, being handicapped, and living in the wrong area for work all mix together. (I went over to Seattle, and they refuse to hire me for Target as being overqualified. Wasn't a problem in NY.)

Seven months after graduating, one CS major told NBC News he'd applied for 100 jobs, and got one job offer — for the 4 a.m. shift at Starbucks.

In a strange twist of fate, it's possible to use the Starbucks College Achievement Plan to learn some marketable skills.

Comment Re: Paperwork nightmare (Score 1) 188

There is a lot of general hate speach here, using any moment and any word to try do de-mean what is going on. As an independent I'll try to give my view. I voted for Obama twice and Biden to inform the people who love to vote me as a troll to curb discussion.

Trump is trying to bring manufacturing back to the US. I don't think there is any way to do that other than terrifs. The US has since the 90's prioritized trade and alliances over internal industry. I grew up with a papermill in northern NY that was closed removing many jobs that never recovered in the rural area.

You may try to make excuses, but this includes Intel... and will eventually work up the chain to more cushy jobs. Even those nice jobs in silicon valley are just on the ladder. They will be gone with the current globalization patterns.

The excuse that higher terrifs making living for the poor harder is intollerable. The trade is core to how people have lost prosperity for short sighted immediate prices. For the prices that a dollar store destroys businesses around it with the cheap import goods. The poor make these things, y'now? Externalizing the prices to foreign countries just lowers the floor of labor to Burger King and Target levels.

The democratic side pedals a lot of lies without context as truth. As an example, "Bringing industry back to the US will take decades!", is a popular lie without context. Biden's and Trump's presidencies will be 12 years of work... more than a decade. Obama did worth to stop the outflow of industry. If you count that, we have 2 decades of efforts on US industry. At what point does this count against decades of work? Or maybe these cute quotes are too convenient to critical thought. Is what I just said a lie?

I voted for Kamala twice in the democratic primaries. I voted for Trump in the election. I lost to leg to cancer and I was homeless part of my life. Generally I would be considered prime material for the Democratic party. Other than the radicals only looking at me as a white male trying to put my family at risk when I couldn't even walk. White male privilege ammirite?Gotta put those white males in whisker wheel chairs in their place, right? That if the current state of the Democratic party.

Comment Dropbox paid user here (Score 1) 35

I've never found Dropbox's services all that great. It's platform agnostic... but I've never felt like the UI is built with usability in mind.

Example one: the "photos" tab on mobile will show ALL images on your account. Not just photos. I accidently deleted a bunch of important files because of this

Another example is that multiple delete synchronously calls an api for each file. That means one ggets deleted about a second. 20 seconds for twenty files

If you connect a third party photo app it can only access the first 5000 files which means there os no great way to do a google photo or iphoto replacement.

Syncing to the native filesystem is the only saving grace for dropbox. And even that isn't that unique anymore.

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