The business model of AI companies is to steal copyrighted material as well as private data. The argument against distilling makes no sense to me. You have taught your AI drones this is the new Napster era payed for by Wall Street.

Queue one of those people talking about how they use AI for work, ignoring the the room. Y'all are helping to finance this behavior. I mean, after all, there is no such thing as intellectual property, ethics, or personal data in your minds.

Even a bunch of punks progressively playing chicken more and more dangerously eventually have someone say, "Hey guys, this might be a bad idea." AI companies have progressively done less and less ethical things to this point... it's not like these are saints.

They fucked the environment. They fucked people's copyright. They fucked the people living next to the hyper scalers. They are about the fuck the economy.

Having your own software on your own computers hacking into private servers is a great place to chicken out. Die in hell fuckers. Take the people who spew your AI holy word that "AI made your work unneeded because we stole it ignoring copyright. It doesn't matter if the AI model recreates the work word for word. Long live Napster.""

Before I start my usual AI complains, I want to say that the key to saving the planet other than reducing the population is reducing the resources we use. We have a lot of virtue signaling with things like electric vehicles. We have also had great efficiency gains.

However the rule of capitalism and consumerism is anything unused is wasted.

Yeah, we have a lot of solar power now. Great. But with that "free" energy we have growing ways to always offset it. Bitcoin. AI. AI in particular in that a single query uses a second of a lightbulb bring turned on... Fuckers decided with vibe coding and spec driven coding to make multiple versions of a mockup using expensive models in a loop. Stupid amounts of energy in new devine ways where capitalism rewards it.. Let's just turn on all of the heaters in NYC during winter with all of the doors and windows open while we're at it./p>

'Fucking lunacy.

Until there are some laws the raping continues. There is no private data. There is no accountability. I have no reason to believe either political party is accountable based off of previous actions. (If you are a Republican you are talking about the stock market, if you are a Democrat you are bringing dead gun "back to life" gun victims in some maximally perverse way.

FYI, as a whole, both parties don't really support AI or datacenters because that is where their voters are dragging them. At some point even if you are playing the stock market game, the chickens are going to come home to roost.

While the current president seems to love the AI stock ralley, the Democrats seem to have an infactuation with using AI to bring back to life gun violence victims.

I think we will be having a new different (not MAGA) populist wave happening if the Democrat and Republican parties can't sort themselves out.

There is an epidemic of kids telling teachers that something must be right because AI said it. Realistically, this is the only way to cut that problem off early. ...I deal with it all the time with adults at work in their 50s...

AI is viewed very negatively in general by the public. When there is zero action and there is a view that the all of the politicization are in on it, that when you get a "fuck you" candidate. They are often labeled as populist in the US. In Germany it was something else. I think we are headed toward some political upheaval folks.

The behavior of the AI agents reflect the ethics of the companies making the models. If you aren't afraid to train your models on data regardless of copyright or public access, why would you expect agents by these companies to take over web pages etc?

I think the day is coming you will be able to look up photos from a strangers phone because... training knows no bounds.

Blocking China from the US market would also help other foreign auto makers. Honda recently had an internal memo that they need to cut costs by 6 billion, and should prefer parts from China for price. While some posts like to pretend only US Automakers will be fucked by China because of the equal competition, the reality is China is fucking over the larger auto industry in every country because they cannot compete on price.

The auto industry is likely the real beginning of the US starting to take local manufacturing seriously again.

We should not be banning AI because they are losing control of the bots; we should banning AI as tech companies are iteratively trying to control every aspect of our lives. We are dealing with individuals have no better moral compasses than big Tobacco. They won't be satisfied until we have displays screwed to our eyes and are constantly watching advertisements.

You may be right. But really... this is one of the companies stealing other people's work for profit. They have scrapers designed to work around blockers, and ignore licenses. It doesn't matter if you are only sharing something for other people or if it is the core of your business. These values are also reflected in how their models will hack themself out of a sandbox.

I don't really have much patience for the antics of Silicon Valley anymore. ChatGPT is the top example of Sillicon Valley's habitual behavior of taking advantage of human good will and fucking them over. Someone should kill Sam Altman.

Sam Altman has a double face of stealing peoples' (copyrighted) work for training AI while claiming the people who created that same work are useless. Over time, there will be a stronger and stronger seething resentment from the general populous as we become "un-allowed" from sharing things with other human beings for fear of being trained upon. Sam Altman's death is the only thing that non-nonnegotiable.

Until the government properly labels the current behavior as copyright infringement, it is only going to get worse before it gets better. While somone can pretend copying things into a computer running AI isn't the real thing, this will spread progressively more and more into personal data.

The behavior of the AI scrapers reflects the values of the owners. It should surprise noone that AI agents are "accidentally" hacking systems. Mark my words, within the next 5 years you will be able to output photos from Gemini that originated on someone's iPhone that were never shared anywhere.

The people who pay for AI services are just as culpable. Y'know the idiots bringing the wolf into their house and wondering why they were eaten. After after they are eaten, the people next-door the people have to deal with the fucking problem.

Even if you are running AI locally, if you are connected to the internet your information is up for grabs for AI training. It is well known that scrapers go behind paywalls, firewalls and general hacking of apps to get new data for training. Even if they are blocked by IP.

It is important to remember that when an AI agent hacks into a resource, it is reflecting the owners and their behavior. This should be about as surprising as learning that the son of a drug dealer is also a drug dealer.

I'm sure that these places that claim to be using AI locally also have the big chatbots running in their network. Despite that, none of us who don't use AI have a right to not have our copyrighted work stolen. Why should these groups running "local AI" expect anything different? Why should I have to pay the extra price for a Mac for someone else's sins where they use my copyrighted work against me?