Comment Re:Bad for science! (Score 1) 299
The real problem with the cigarettes analogy is that cigarettes were not regulated based on harm to the user. They were regulated based on harm to others.
I remember this because I lived through it. Nobody ever got anywhere telling people cigarettes were bad for them or that they were going to cause them cancer. Making those arguments just made people smoke even more resolved to smoke, because nobody wants to be as square or a health-nut. Nobody cared, and there would never have been any regulation on that basis.
Cigarettes were finally regulated because they *cause harm to others*. And they didn't even go after the smokers, but they regulated on behalf of the non-smokers. That's why you got non-smoking sections, and no smoking in public places like airports, but still allowed in private business, then eventually you got no smoking indoors, then you got laws against smoking when kids are in the car, and finally you got laws against smoking around pretty much anybody. It was all based around harm to others. This is a much harder argument to make about "ultraprocessed" foods, whatever that even means.
There's also the fact that cigarettes are PROVABLY addictive, so marketing them was seen as exploitive, especially to children, so the taxes and advertising regulations were based on that percieved exploitation of getting somebody addicted to something. This is also hard to make for "ultraprocessed foods", whatever that is.
I remember this because I lived through it. Nobody ever got anywhere telling people cigarettes were bad for them or that they were going to cause them cancer. Making those arguments just made people smoke even more resolved to smoke, because nobody wants to be as square or a health-nut. Nobody cared, and there would never have been any regulation on that basis.
Cigarettes were finally regulated because they *cause harm to others*. And they didn't even go after the smokers, but they regulated on behalf of the non-smokers. That's why you got non-smoking sections, and no smoking in public places like airports, but still allowed in private business, then eventually you got no smoking indoors, then you got laws against smoking when kids are in the car, and finally you got laws against smoking around pretty much anybody. It was all based around harm to others. This is a much harder argument to make about "ultraprocessed" foods, whatever that even means.
There's also the fact that cigarettes are PROVABLY addictive, so marketing them was seen as exploitive, especially to children, so the taxes and advertising regulations were based on that percieved exploitation of getting somebody addicted to something. This is also hard to make for "ultraprocessed foods", whatever that is.