Comment Re:I hate it here (Score 1) 91
ISIS are pussies.
ISIS are pussies.
America and Israel are such shitty countries.
not to pay enough for a taxi.
Yes, they are.
If they can't afford my solutions, they can't afford a car to begin with.
What about them?
Get a better schedule. Get a job that can be walked/biked to or can be done from home. Call an Uber/Lyft/taxi/etc. Plenty of options.
Damnit. Fucked up the format.
Dude the 85th percentile is literally a measure of what 85% of people drive when no signs are posted, based on their vehicles capabilities, road design, weather, and road conditions.
This assumes that this is the standard - which it is not and is becoming even less so as places are switching away. Also it literally cannot account for road conditions or weather as that changes everyday. A normally posted speed limit of 45mph is no longer appropriate during inclement weather.
What are you arguing for, 90, 95%, the maximum, no limit?
Standardization that requires no signage. No suddenly dropping a speed limit by 10mph for 1000ft and then back up for no fucking reason. A higher barrier of entry to get a driver's license to begin with - it's too easy to obtain and keep. Most people are taught just enough to "follow" most traffic laws well enough to pass their initial driver's test, but not actually taught how to drive "correctly" while following those laws. I don't agree with our current system of speed limits, how they're displayed, and how they're enforced, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should just be driving however, whenever. There is a correct, efficient way of driving and it's not something that is taught as part of getting a license. The type of driver you described is exactly the type that would never even get a license to begin with in my system.
It doesn't matter that much if most drivers ignore the signs, because like you said, the signs are based on the behavior of most drivers. The signs are telling you what most drivers think is a safe speed, right?
Until they don't. Because it wasn't universally adopted and is getting further away from being so. There is no real standardization.
You assume that because I disagree with how speed limits are currently implemented and that I would prefer a system of no signage with higher penalties for "accidents" as well as a higher barrier of entry to obtain a driver's license that I also must be an unsafe driver just driving however I want everywhere? Because that would make you both stupid and wrong. I am perfectly capable of following current traffic laws and speed limits while knowing they're complete bullshit and overall a terrible system to maintain.
Too many people think that being able to drive a vehicle is some right that they have. It is a privilege that too many take for granted and don't deserve to have.
Most speed limits are in residential areas, as most road miles are in residential areas - those speed limits are not set to generate speeding ticket revenue, or do you really think it would be safe to drive, say, 40-45 MPH down a neighborhood street?
Depends on the type of road. Not all residential roads are quiet, low-traffic, neighborhood roads.
School zones are another place where the speed limit is set for safety, not revenue generation - it has to do with reaction times, stopping distance, etc.
That is what they claim. But I've seen plenty of places keep their school zones active even when there is no school in session (i.e. a holiday or other break from school) and people get ticketed for it - which has nothing to do with safety. I've also seen school zones that straight up don't make sense because no pedestrians even come close to that road or cross it - which has nothing to do with safety. So while I fully believe the intent of school zones is for safety, many are poorly designed/implemented in a way that makes them easily ignorable.
Even though these aren't necessarily about revenue generation, police will often abuse the sudden, unexpected changes in speed limits to "trap" as many drivers as possible. This is totally about revenue generation and not safety.
I don't want a sweeping change. I just want real standardization that is easy and makes sense so that there is no need for any signage to begin with.
Oh, yeah, a teenager would totally know what the 85th percentile rule is or anything about how traffic actually works.
The article is about a state in the USA so my statement was also limited to the USA, though that is my fault for not clarifying.
Most places (in the US) utilize the 85th percentile rule - the speed at which 85% of traffic naturally travels = arbitrary and stupid. Some places are actively switching away from this. However, on top of this "rule", many agencies/places set the speed limit BELOW the 85th percentile rule which is even more arbitrary and stupid - the only possible reason is to cause confusion and generate revenue.
Next, most drivers tend to ignore signs and pick a speed based on their vehicle capabilities, road design, weather, and traffic conditions. Which means the signs are arbitrary, which means the speed limit is arbitrary. Some speed limits in some places are politically motivated instead of having anything to do with safety.
It would be significantly safer to remove all these useless road signs, as they are a distraction to actually driving, while significantly increasing the penalties for unsafe driving that result in some sort of accident. Also, make it significantly harder to get, and keep, your driver's license. There are states that have 8 or more years in between license renewals, which is ridiculous.
Most speed limits are arbitrarily set and have no legitimate reason other than to generate revenue from speeding tickets.
All seems condemned in the long run to approximate a state akin to Gaussian noise. -- James Martin