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Journal Apreche's Journal: Record Exec Coming to RIT!! 12

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It's what all of us college students have been yearning for.

http://www.rit.edu/~930www/webnews/viewstory.php3?id=960

Check it out. The Chief Operating Officer of BMG Records is coming to give a lecture at a tech school trying to defend his anti-filesharingness. Is he in for some suprise. The coalition has been formed to boo him, harass him and send him down in a blaze of glory. But hopefully, just maybe, we can make him see the light.

So, if you go to RIT come on down for some fun! If you can't make it, post some questions you might want to ask him. If your questions don't suck I'll try to get them answered. I'll follow this up after the lecture. I'll be attending with a posse and some notebooks and possible audio/video recording devices. My roomate has his jolly roger shirt all laundered up.

And if you didn't get the link. His name is Michael Smellie. Ooooh yeah.

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  • If you refuse to listen to someone, eventually they'll stop talking. Yes, I know that is what you want.

    However, I'm not convinced that the results you are eventually going to get are the ones you want. A more prudent approach would be to dialogue with your opponent and find some middle ground.

    All you are doing is weakening your argument. Soon you will lose any ability to credibly argue your position. Then you will has no position, and P2P will be completely outlawed.

    I know that you won't listen to me
    • Normally I would agree with you about the common ground part. And of course, I'm being silly about 0wnz0ring this exec guy. We will go with intelligent well planned out arguments against his standpoint and engage in friendly academic discussion.

      However, the reason I can agree with you about finding common ground is this. I refuse to pay for music. Recorded music is monetarily worthless to me. For all eternity from now on I will download any song I want, for free, and listen to it whenever, wherever an

    • That's ok, I'm for strong property rights myself. I'm not going to shed any tears if filesharing disappears completely.

      That's odd. I'm for strong property rights, too. In fact, I believe so strongly about my property rights over my computer and the hard drive it contains, and the CDs I own, I believe I also own the bits they contain. And, of course, if I own those bits, I have every right to share them with anyone I want, no?
      • That's odd. I'm for strong property rights, too. In fact, I believe so strongly about my property rights over my computer and the hard drive it contains, and the CDs I own, I believe I also own the bits they contain. And, of course, if I own those bits, I have every right to share them with anyone I want, no?

        You must be trolling. No. Simply because you buy a book doesn't mean you now own the rights to the test printed on the paper. You do own a physical copy of the book. Those letters belong to the co

        • You're not getting it, are you? Property law is not as cut-and-dried as you seem to make out, and there are legitimate property claims deriving from purchase of objects---even intellectual objects.
          • Property law is not as cut-and-dried as you seem to make out, and there are legitimate property claims deriving from purchase of objects---even intellectual objects.

            *Unfortunetaly,* property law is not as cut-and-dried. It should be. I expect it to be.

            To me it is simple. I have property. I created it. It belongs to me whether it is physical or intellectual. That's the easy part.

            The hard part is when you want to use, or benefit from, my property. How can I let you use my property while still "ow

            • The hard part is when you want to use, or benefit from, my property.

              Well, no. The hard part is when you want to sell me your property---but still retain control.

              How can I let you use my property while still "owning" it?

              Oh, come on. I can lend physical property, and still own it---no problem whatsoever. This goes on all the time. Nothing tricky involved. Now, maintaining control after a sale (i.e., after relinquishing ownership)---that's a trickier problem.

              • Now, maintaining control after a sale (i.e., after relinquishing ownership)---that's a trickier problem.

                No, see, that's where we disagree. A sale doesn't imply I reliquish ownership of my product. It just means you now have certain rights to my product. I feel that those rights are clearly defined. You, for some reason, want to devalue those rights. Why?

                -Brent

                • No, see, that's where we disagree. A sale doesn't imply I reliquish ownership of my product.

                  What?!?! sale [m-w.com]:

                  1. the act of selling; specifically : the transfer of ownership of and title to property from one person to another for a price
                  2. a: opportunity of selling or being sold: DEMAND

                    b: distribution by selling
                  3. public disposal to the highest bidder : AUCTION
                  4. a selling of goods at bargain prices
                  5. plural a: operations and activities involved in promoting and selling goods or services <vice-president in cha
  • I've got lots and lots of friends who are. Glad you posted this in your journal. Now all of them will know, and hopefully get a couple more bodies there to help.

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