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Comment Re:This is a good thing (Score 2) 273

> But the relative complexity of the installation process,....

Funny story.

My first job in IT was for Cistron Internet Services in the Netherlands. They were one of the first ISP's in NL. And had a few Debian developers working there. They had built this CD-Rom that, when inserted into your Windows 9x PC would autorun some installer that would setup your dial-in modem and stuff. Since the diskspace on the CD-rom was about 99% unused, they also included a complete copy of the first disc of Debian. Which was worth it's weight in gold at the time. I think it was Slink-1-and-a-half, but it could be Potato.

Now, this was a bootable CD, for obvious reasons.

I was on the helpdesk at the time. I had 2 new customers a year that would phone up and ask how they should proceed onto the internet now that they had finished the installer. After talking to them a few minutes I realized that they had actually managed to fully install Debian. They had rebooted their PC for some reason, with the bootable CD in it. They had managed to re-partition their drives, enter root passwords, enter user details, completely installing the whole shebang. They were looking at a Debian login screen and wondering how to proceed now. And then, and only then, did they bother to call the helpdesk as they couldn't figure out what to do next.

These were not tech-savvy people. These were small business owners that wanted to see what was up with that whole internet thing. And yet they managed that in 2001 and

Every time I hear someone say 'the $Distro installer is complicated', it brings back a fond memory of great times at Cistron. So thanks for that.



Ps: Cistron ADSL will come to YOUR area within two weeks! Really!

Comment Re:Any other variables..? (Score 1) 206

FYI, a newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for the first two months of their life. After about 8 or 9 weeks, if you are lucky, your child will (hopefully!) sleep for 5 to 6 hours at a time, so Mom can finally start getting more than 3 hours of sleep then.

It's even worse, since you forgot the actual feeding time.

A newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, where 3 hours is the time since the start of the last feed. In other words: if a newborn is a slow drinker/feeder and takes up to (or over!) an hour for a full feed, Mom now only has 2 hours to herself.

On a sidenote: I never thought I'd be writing this type of comment. Especiallly on /.. Ain't life grand!

Comment Re:Very true, for many reasons. (Score 1) 298

The title reads 'should know how to code'. Not 'should code'.

The difference is, imho, that if one understands code it stops being a black box. Even if it *is* a black box. That understanding will help you debug many problems faster. It's another tool in the toolbox.

But if you're happy with your hammer, then by all means, hammer away!

Comment Re:Cult of DevOps? (Score 2) 114

I'm guessing the main haters are sysadmins...

And that is exactly the chasm of the "us" and "them" attitude that the DevOps folks (IMHO) are trying to bridge. Thank you for your fine example, sir.


Submission + - Massive Ubuntu Linux desktop deployment ( 1

An anonymous reader writes: Massive Ubuntu Linux desktop deployment at lower cost

Boot easily more than 100 workstations from one low-end server in single read-only image over network. This saves time and money. The main goals were tasked with finding new solutions that improve desktop performance for end users and decrease the amount of work per desktop for administrators. The selected solution was found in combining known technologies like networked booting, a read-only system disk image with live-cd techniques and network attached storage.

Paper A paper is written for decision makers (Chapt. 2, non-technical) and system administrators (Chapt. 3, technical), but may be interesting for a wider audience as well.

Comment Re:Stop being a douche (Score 1) 539

So you openly admit the machine IS NOT YOURS. You are essentially keeping them from their own machine, which I find unethical. I can't blame them for taking matters into their own hand and rebooting the system into single-user mode and locking you out until you play nice.

Stop being a jerk and cooperate with the owners of the machine you are renting or take your data elsewhere.

Simply because they own the property does not give them the right to invade your privacy. There is still the illusion of privacy here, right?

Operating Systems

Submission + - Turning 'netboot' into 'internetboot' (

Nick Johnson writes: " takes regular netbooting and makes it a whole lot more versatile — now, you can netboot directly into the installers for many popular linux distros, as well as system tools and even live linux distributions, all directly over the Internet, and without any local configuration required!

All that's required to set up is a spare writable CD, USB key, or floppy disk to write a small (less than 1MB) disk image to. Alternately, determined geeks can change their DHCP server to allow computers to netboot directly. Once you've done that, booting off the device on any computer with wired ethernet (wifi is a work in progress) will automatically cause the bootloader to download the current version of the menu from, which you can then find the boot image you want to boot from. Selecting it causes the boot image to be downloaded and booted immediately.

Best of all, lets you add your own boot configurations; once you've tested them, and if they're of general interest, you can file a bug to have them included in the menu system. is capable of booting any linux kernel and any other standard boot image, as well as disk images and CD images, thanks to syslinux's memdisk.

The getting started and help pages have many more details on how to use, and how to contribute to it. The more boot images in the system the better, so contributions are much appreciated."

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