Right, Debian Stable, that's the one. But again, there's no RedHat out there getting it on Dell servers or getting companies to port their applications to it. And JBoss is close to the best application server for any price. And distro provided clustering is good and seamless. And there's RedHat directory, which is also good. I see RedHat making money--actual profits--with Linux and then plowing it back into the most important aspects of a business Linux and really doing more than any company to promote Open Source Linux at a corporate level. Anyone who was on CentOS and needed 6.0 sooner is either on RHEL paying for it or they didn't need it. I just didn't get the "most people using CentOs have moved on" comment.. I mean, I have 30-40 servers running version 5.2 through 5.6 and I'm not "moving on". They just sit there and run, year after year, with all the security updates backported by RedHat and the community.

All that being said, if I was to use it on the desktop, which I don't because I'm kinda happy with Mac 10.6 (we'll see if that happiness stays in the next release...), I would probably have gone to Ubuntu for the newer Kernel and windowing packages. That's not to say you can't just grab an FC kernel and jam it into Centos but who has time for that. If I wanted something to play around with, that's what I'd do. If I was going to replace the desktops in my company with Linux, I would stay with CentOS to avoid the hassles of newish stuff.

Sure, the U.S. Military could be Anonymous. It could be anyone.

Considering they will be supporting 6.0 for 7 years, I don't think six months is a long time to build the testing and releasing infrastructure. For you to say that "most people using CentOS have moved on" is basically patently false. If you have any statistics or evidence to back up that statement, I'd love to hear them sir. I'm sure we'll see quite soon when the download numbers are out. CentOS is the only binary compatible free version of RHEL, which is the only truely commercial business Linux available (ok, there's IBM still, but no Novell anymore). If I need to go from free CentOS to supported RHEL, I can do that very easily with my existing applications and configurations. And they have GOOD support, as in some of the best I've ever seen. And great documentation. And training. I look at Ubuntu and I see a distro that's one big mistake away from collapsing. I also see a desktop distro for consumers and not a business system.

I can second this. We use a number of commercial applications that run on Linux, including VMWare Zimbra, WebHelpDesk and Quickbooks Enterprise. All of them only support RHEL but CentOS runs perfectly. I think the only thing I ever had difficulty with was Crystal Reports Server (Business Objects), which checked for RHEL is some weird way, not just reading /etc/redhat-release.

CentOS will have 6.1 out sooner becasue they built tools and tests and infrastructure for RH6.0. Since they will be supporting it for the next 7 years, 6 months does not seem bad. CentOS has had some internal issues but this release definitely shows they are getting it together again. Still my favorite by far. Also, I usually compile my own major applications (such as Apache) and not use the distro source. Of course, Apache makes RPMs available as well.

Not to mention Apple stores getting mentioned as well............. it's all marketing, nothing to see here.

I fully get irony. I don't get why people make up words to try to be cool rather than utilize our perfectly good existing language. Also, the rumor is a large part of the core OS team has indeed left Apple due to their increased focus on consumer electronics, which apparently does not sit well with the Bay Area Unix veterans (I can't imagine why). So, while they will not "end" MacOS, it's already becoming a locked-down operating system like you're already used to on your phone, designed to vertically integrate the software and media publishing distribution and retail. Thus they've taken all the years of hard work making Unix and the internet this open and free information exchange and then taking it's stability and using it to enslave the users into consuming copies of bits for real money.

Yeah, I think they overused the breathless adjectives there--far more than to my taste. This isn't news. Apple doesn't control the parts market by any means--they just don't ship that many units.

However, they could have said something like "Apple vertically integrates its part suppliers while trying to predict hardware trends by going all-in on the manufacturing side. This means when they guess right, they have an advantage over the rest of the market because they have already reserved capacity. When they guess wrong, they still have to make the devices because they've already paid for the parts" and I'd be happier. Journalists aren't supposed to add breathless adjectives. Your job is to be as neutral as possible. It seems every Apple story does it's best to give you goosepimples--c'mon guys, we know who you're working for.

And don't forget that Microsoft was selling 500 million copies of something, not 10 million. Pft, the tablet market is small. It's a toy. And maybe useful for delivery drivers. Watch it fade away again. Smart phones, that's where it's at, and no one is going to win that game, it'll just be divided up amongst the players. Microsoft/Nokia and Blackberry for business customers, Apple for "creative" professionals and Android for the cheapskates and hackers.

Anyone who uses a made up word like "protip" is not a pro and is not giving you a good tip.

What I really DON'T like is when journalists make subjective statements like "Apple has succeeded in defining what a tablet should be" out to be some type of fact. Really, that's what a tablet should be? I'd say they've only really succeeded in showing what the MARKETING for a tablet should be (e.g. a big phone, not a small, general purpose computer). I'd argue that they didn't really invent much but just packaged it right. Sure, there's something to be said for that, but to somehow say that it's any different than Kraft Macaroni and Cheese versus the store brand is to totally miss the point. It's classic monopolistic competition. Of course Apple saturated the consumer market with something but the problem is the business market is much larger (in dollars) and they missed that. And they don't care. I'm just not interested in toys. I find that the majority of these Apple kissing "journalists" (who likely get a kickback, and if they don't are idiots;) also are huge fans of board games and fantasy books. Let me know when it can actually do work.

If programming languages are indeed religions, as the gp posted, then Ruby is the equivalent of mindless evangelical Christianity. Everybody's doing it man, you don't have to do anything but use Ruby on Rails and you'll be saved. PFT! But I guess people have to learn on their own. If that works for you, great, but I'm not going to hire you for my team where we typically use 5-6 different languages a day, none of which are anything like Ruby, and which Ruby fails to prepare you for.

Yeah, Ruby is not what I would do either. Ruby is dying fast. While I'm not a huge Python fan, it's not a bad language. If you're on the UX side you should look at learning HTML5 and javascript libraries like jQuery and javascriptMVC. In my opinion the content management side of the business is going to be where we all end up long term, with most "programming" being telling the CMS what to do and what modules to route documents to. So learning some standards like CMIS, OData, GData, and some big document management systems like Alfresco will get you much further than "building web applications". As much as the designers would like to brainwash you that it's all about the UI (and designers are very good communicators so they can), the reality is that UI is a solved problem. At Fortune 1000 companies, you're not going to see much "programming" in the end user stuff. In general, it's middleware. Your career will be much longer if you learn about the data side, and not at a programmer's level but at an analyst level. The number of analysts will be 100 times the number of programmers in 10 years.

The message is a thinly veiled right wing astroturf. You really think anyone would want to flood people out of their houses? I think it's great that the Corps has modified 75 year old flow doctrine to account for new science about wildlife that we depend upon for food, and new science about how the flooding actually helps farmers by creating new fertile areas. Sure, they probably need to upgrade these old systems to account for the new science but to base your entire argument on the fact that the last 75 years of science does not mesh with your "religious" belief that we should scorch the Earth as much as possible before you're all "raptured"... well... I don't know what to say about that.

But I do know that classic Christianity is largely based on the old testament Hebrew text that is very clear about stewardship of the land. The middle east was once a forest and once civilization came to be, the extraction of resources turned the area into a desert. The people of the time, 2000-5000 years ago already saw this and that's why a lot of the text is about maintaining a balance with nature in agriculture. We could all end up with nothing! The modern day extractionist movement (which has a religious support from evangelical Christians) almost seems like it's been formented by the mineral (oil) and timber and organized agriculture industries (and the consumerist retailers, such as Walmart), by their heavy investment in evangenical churches. It's a known fact of history that many corporate mining and logging camps (or even whole towns) would bring in a minister for the residents (in the early 20th century before the trusts were busted up). But the fact that these ministers actually worked for the company and may have been spreading corporatist dogma is not well explored.

So basically, the 10 or 100 people who own the majority of stock in the major oil companies, timber companies, organized agriculture and Walmart have helped to *create a new religion* (and religious army of employees and consumers) based around the fact that what they are doing is right, to defend against the good science that is increasingly telling the world what they are doing is wrong. So they can gain control of more of the economy. And this is a fact. I'm not a left wing nut. This is actually what's happening.

Right. I'm sure affected people will be getting a nice tax holiday and credit if the governors declare a state of emergency.