He's a fanatic. You won't change his mind with rational argument. He doesn't get that he's just as invested in this society as anyone else. All it will take is some sort of accident where he can't work for a few years to shuffle him back to reality. Or not. If something were to happen to him, he might revel in the poverty he descends into because he did it on his own and didn't accept any help from others, because after all, that wouldn't be taking all the responsibility on himself. No-one should ever need to have to ask for help or share in community. [/sarcasm] People like that are a minority and a lost cause and should be treated like trolls in the forums. Humans progressed in the world because we evolved as social animals. We certainly weren't strong enough to take on large predictors on our own individually that would have eaten our ancestors if they were individualistic libertarians. If things were really the way he wanted, it would rapidly change to the way it is as those individuals like he wants to be would be Darwinized while social groups who banded together would survive by their ability to handle catastrophic crises by cooperation.

I hope you pay for your own private fire department and police and water lines etc. Twit. Nothing you say will convince me your libertarian hogwash is valid. Especially when you talk out of both sides of your mouth.

Never mind the basic computer programming fundamentals you mentioned (and very good points made). I see things that boggle me like far too many "young" Java programmers whose code is deployed on an app server in a *nix environment while they have only the barest understanding of Linux/Unix. They might know ls, grep, and a couple of other commands (I did say server which usually means command line only). I just can't understand when programmers aren't well versed in the environment in which their code is going to run in.

I personally don't have a problem with frameworks per se, they can be considered libraries in some sense and can cut time in developing solutions. Where I tend to get leery is when they obfuscate the language they are based on. Or are so rigid they make it hard to think outside of the framework box, possibly truncating novel solutions. Done right they are a very good thing. For example JEE is really a kind of framework that allows programmers wide latitude for the most part.

We need a new "Godwin's Law" with respect to discussions about 'older' programmers. In this case, a person's thread becomes invalid any time they use the term 'new fangled' in their explanation on why they think older workers aren't as good as young ones.

Generalizing is a survival trait. Those who do it, live longer. The ones who keep looking for the exception to the rule fall to Darwin. Besides people have other things to do than research every story that comes out of Glenn Beck's ass to see if it legit. The best use of people's time is to just assume it isn't, then move on. If the OP would have posted from a legit news source, there would be no argument.

Maybe instead of raising money by grassroots means to finance Democratic presidential candidates, they should put all the money in a Congressional slush fund. It really doesn't matter which side wins the presidency anyway. Whatever they want, it has to go through congress first, and neither side is that much different from each other once they get in the Oval Office; how is that warrantless wiretapping going with Obama, or drone strikes, or his buddies in the RIAA/MPAA and their DMCA/ACTA schemes, or... you name it. He has done a few things different from Bush, but on the whole not much.

Now with a Grassroots Congressional Slushfund, the 99% can have a fund that rivals the corporations when it comes to buying their local congressman or senator (since only the naive think they aren't for sale in some way). The average American can have their own lobby group with heavy financing that can rival the drug, medical insurance and Wall Street lobby groups. Right now in this day and age, the only way I can see change happening is to fight fire with fire.

Just a thought... slag away. I can take it.

Exactly. After how many stories like this will people 'get it' that if you put anything on a web connected device it should not be shocking that it gets on the web. Nor on any device that you let someone else access, whatever the reason. At a minimum she should have had the photos stored on a separate memory card that could be removed. And if the phone didn't have that or she didn't know who to do that, don't put compromising or embarrassing photos on the phone. Right or wrong aside, it is just setting yourself up. When I'm crossing at a crosswalk I still watch to make sure the cars stop. It doesn't matter if I'm in the right it they run me over. I'd still be dead. Sometimes being in the right isn't enough.

Do you watch porn movies for the dialog?

This was one of the links at the bottom of the OP article. It is a pretty funny look at some unrealistic dreams of going to Mars.

Ah that is where thinking comes into it. You see you have to notice the name Glenn Beck. Then also be able to recognize that Glenn Beck was fired from Fox News for being too much of a right wing nut job. And if you know all this but can't understand the implications, then you are more in need of a hockey helmet than explanations. As to the sites you link to, they are moot to this particular conversation since the OP didn't link to them. The OP linked to a not credible news source. And the issue people have is that articles that use not credible news sources shouldn't make the front page. It's like using the Bible (a good book full of great metaphors, parables, lessons, and loosely transcribed history) to form a conclusion that the earth is 6000 years old.

This was the first story I down voted on the recent submissions page when I looked in there today. It really wasn't that hard to click on the link and see the spam site and that this was spam. I even chose the binspam option on the down vote. Whoever is the editor today is slacking. I know I'm not the only voting on those but you'd think anything with a vote of binspam should get an automatic closer look. The second story I down voted was the Glenn Beck trash story. At least for that one I had to highlight the "theblaze" site name and right click on search google to get to the wikipedia link (third or fourth site down the google search) to see that it was bullshit.

Is this lameness the result of the new ownership? Or is it because it's Friday night and they're network gaming and only spending a few minutes here and there posting stories so they look like they're working?

Well I gave it minus when it was still in the recent submission / firehose stage. Of course I actually looked up what "TheBlaze" was when I saw the site banner of the story and didn't recognize the source (can't bring myself to put the 'news' prefix on it). Right near the top on Google was the Wikipedia link. Yep Glenn Beck. A guy so vile even Fox fired him. People, you have to look at the source before believing shit is legit. This guy is just a slightly less fat Rush Limbaugh.