We are speaking about the South Korean Military. Not Some places.

They cannot use your idea of Androids are secure enough, unless the South Korean never deals with any classified information. As an ally of the USA, that would be very strange indeed.

I know that the Pine and Purism offerings have hardware switches, But every phone would have to be inspected to insure the switches are in the right position. Any meeting I had responsibility would have every cell and smartphone and recording device left outside. My meeting, DOD and my rules.

You are twisting yourself into a knot trying to talk about more or less stringent. It's military, Any military deal in classified information, and unless you disable everything that a smartphone does, the proceeds of the classified meeting can be recorded and disseminated to adversaries.

It can even happen at non classified meetings with NDA's. What level of security are these phones secure at? Even then, We're talking about military.

i am so bold to to believe that men are also humans, that we are not all evil, and that if a man dares to state anything other than that men are evil predators and gain agency by their misogyny..

In this world, men avoiding women to the extent that only 6 men out of 1000 get married, that only complete professionalism in the workplace where no interactions other than work related happen, and women are now wondering why men don't approach them - this is a win for women, as their predator is leaving them alone.

https://www.psychologytoday.co...

I think as women become accustomed to life without men, they will get used to it, and will understand that this is the best outcome for women. Then they will be happy, freed of the tyranny they feel, and the proximate cause of all their unhappiness.

That's rich!

Perhaps you would like to have an in-depth conversation about the relationships between men and women, sans the gratuitous insulting attitude.

Why in your estimation has the fertility rate fallen as indicated by these article - or do you deny it?

Why has the marriage rate fallen to 6 out of 1000 people today?

There is a widespread complaint by women that men no longer approach them. https://katya-koval.medium.com... Is she wrong? Tell us why she is wrong.

Women recording themselves at gyms to accuse men of creeping https://www.theguardian.com/li.... Men are largely stopping going to them https://eightify.app/media/why... Men no longer attend singles events https://eightify.app/media/why...

Now, is a woman calling a man a creep - often posting it on social media abusive? Maybe, maybe not. Who is responsible? If is men who are responsible, why are the women complaining about men avoiding women? Is that not the cessation of their problem? We can start there, or you can continue accusing me of being incapable of reading again. I can assure you that I can hold a in depth conversation without calling you names, or that unlike you, I won't accuse you of illiteracy. Balls in your court.

Planes are best designed and built by engineers with the proper chops. When managers and Beancounters make technical decisions based on short term profits, the planes start to fall out of the sky.

MBA and bean counter decisions:

Outsourcing to Spirit Aerosystems. That didn't turn out too well, seldom does

Taking the 737 airframe and placing bigger engines (bigger diameter) that intrude into the airflow over the wings, which suddenly add extra lift in high angle of attack situations, which can stall the plane. This can be compensated for with trainer time, but in general, unstable airframes are best used in fighter jets, not passenger planes.

Modifying the flying characteristics to simulate regulr 737s to avoid pilots having to do trainer work. This was done to make the plane more appealing to potential customers. Sell more planes.

MCAS - the crown jewel of the MBA/Beancounter uber alles culture. Making the plane imitate the standard 737, and with a single, non redundant system, It was 100 percent designed to cheap out. And they didn't even tell airlines until a lot pf people were dead.

This diminishment of Engineers the ascendency of the MBS's and Accountants, and the diminishment of the planes themselves, as mere tools for profit, not the purpose of Boeing. And the results show it.

Perhaps it isn't that, perhaps it just looks exactly like that

Can you tell me where the hardware switches are that fender all recording and audio and transmission capabilities of the phones impossible to be compromised, thegarbz? https://www.dla.mil/About-DLA/... Take it up with those guys.

I'm pretty certain that you-as the final arbiter of the fully managed and completely secure Android phones they will be really happy to be corrected and allow these managed systems in any and all classified spaces.

Consider for a moment that perhaps you are not quite as smart as you think you are. There are a very few phones that have hardware switches to turn off the microphone, camera, recording features and RF capabilities of a smartphone. They are exceptionally rarely issued - only to the highest level people. And that, is most certainly, exactly what the fuck I am blathering about.

You take the phone, put it in the metal container and lock it, and take the key with you. You leave any portable recording devices outside the room. Then when you leave the classified area, you retrieve the Phone. And that, homie, is how this is managed. Wanna know how serious they are? Furbys are not allowed inside classified meeting rooms. Ask me how I know. Relax, enjoy an adult beverage or herb of your choice.

Oh yeah, I agree with what you said. It's just that they might be patriotic South Koreans, but they are gonna be pwned. Pine makes a Linux smartphone that has hardware switches, but the things are activated by DIP switches, and really, it's just easier to put them in a metal box/

Scientists are humans, subject to all of the foibles of people who believe that all science comes from some religious book. That's not a specific diss of religion, but that some people want to be told what is, and to not ever have that change.

The difference is that scientists at some point admit that they could be wrong.

The issue with smartphones and computers when dealing with security is that for all of the peter waving between iPhone and Android, there is a whole lot more to handling classified data than what most people think of.

Smartphones have cameras, microphones and recording devices. If you plan to take them into a classified facility, they must be physically disabled. A very few phones have mechanical kill switches. But they are tiny little DIP switches, and are you going to remember, to turn them off or bet your career on the fact you may not have? Even with laptops and desktops, Windows or MacOS or Linux, if you cannot physically disconnect the camera and microphone, you have to disable them. We used to drill through them.

You can hate iPhones as much as you want, but try taking your Android into a classified facility just carry it in your hand as you enter, then when you get stopped, assure the the guard or security cheif that as an Android, it is a secure phone.

Do Samsung and LG not have cameras, audio recording and microphones?

I get it. People hate Apple anything. But the phones available for only a very few high level people must be modified to verifiably turn off all of those devices.

The cake treats or the other sort of ding-dongs? Some states want the second type outlawed. depending on two people with the same ones.

Perhaps our Security department was completely wrong, but we had to put all phones of any make or brand, smartphones, flipphones any 2 way device in secure containers. If you brought one into a secure area, and were caught, you were given a security violation. The only way you could escape that is if you removed the battery - if it could be removed. Androids were no exception. No cameras, or microphones or recording devices. All of which are on Androids.

There are certain exceptions for high level people, but all of those things have to be disabled.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/p...

It's been policy for years - at least here - that you take the smartphone out of your pocket, turn it off, and put in a little locker designed to hold it until you leave the area where classified discussions might occur.

You always turn it off, because ET always tries to connect to a tower. In that little metal cage, it ramps up to full power, and drains the battery quickly.

We can discuss all day, but tracking and connecting is the core of how the cellular system works. It's a short hop from there to surreptitious recording.

Policy, amirite?

Here's the problem with defensive nucs. They are not defensive by their very existence.

The closest that nucs get to being a defensive weapon is the policy of mutually assured destruction, or MAD.

And as long as no nuts are in charge, that kinda works.

And there is a bit of difference between what happens in the USA and Russia. If you oppose Putin, you might accidentally get dioxin or Polonium soup with your salt and bread. That sort of thing tends to breed unquestioning compliance.

And for all of the bluff and bluster about old Donnie, I'd wager a year's salary that if he decided to launch a nuc attack, the generals have a plan to nullify that command if they determine that it is frivolous or demented. Our generals are not required to comply or die.

What do you think about Burevestnik, Russia's version of SLAM? That's about as non-defensive as you can get.

If you are into such things, Project Pluto and SLAM are fascinating Here's a Youtube link to get you started https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A pretty fair number of vids there on that.

Back when the US investigated SLAM and Project Pluto, in the late 50's, they did prove that you could create a Ramjet engine with the heat source being an "air cooled" open reactor. The air cooling would be the air going through the Ramjet.

The project was eventually cancelled because it was batshit crazy. Actual tests of a finished SLAM would have radiation spewing all over. Even testing the thing was dangerous AF.

At to whether Uncle Vlad has such a thing or not is open to conjecture, but it isn't a defensive weapon for certain if Russia does have it.

But still, his wife is fun too.