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Comment Re:Just another very trusting person (Score 1) 871

It won't help if they're all corrupt, but even having a few who are not corrupt allows the 5th Amendment to be used to mitigate the circumstances under which an individual may be falsely prosecuted and convicted.

So no, not even close to the same boat, but then you've obviously never had any real experience inside a courtroom, let alone dealt with a separate Appellate court to which a lesser, more corrupt judge may end up having their ass handed to them.

You cannot come up with a specific scenario which ends up differing based on the 5th Amendment, because the 5th Amendment is just words. The different outcomes depend on external factors related to the function of the legal system. Your test is fundamentally flawed because it rests on a completely false presumption that the 5th Amendment can or cannot directly change the outcome of certain situations. The 5th Amendment may only indirectly affect the outcome; the real determination is if someone in a position to change something throws out or allows evidence, either in the primary case or on appeal, based on whether it violated the 5th or not. Not only that, but the 5th will invariably change the behavior of borderline corrupt cops or prosecutors. Without it, they may or may not do things differently. No example can have concrete results, but all you need to do is look at history to know that the 5th Amendment changed the behavior of certain individuals in the justice system so that things did not proceed in the same manner as the King's courts. You either didn't read history, or you did and have jack all common sense. Neither of those cause anyone with actual sense (or little sense but a decent understanding of history) to look favorably on your "challenge."

Comment Re:Remember kids... (Score 1) 871

People who want to make a positive difference are frequently more of a problem than those who are corrupt, since that "positive difference" usually ends up as their personal interpretation of "how things should be." That's often very narrow-minded and rigid, and ends up harming anyone they contact who might fall even slightly out of their concept of how exactly one should behave.

In addition, the power that comes from being able to control others based solely on the group one belongs to is incredibly corrupting. It can easily turn otherwise rational humans into the sleaziest, nastiest people you'd ever have the misfortune to meet.

Comment Re:Why we have a 5th Amendment (Score 1) 871

On the flip side, the OP being obtuse has provided repeated opportunities for those who will actually read the comments to come to the conclusion they shouldn't talk to the police if they didn't know that already. So the OP beating a dead horse may actually help make more people exercise care when interacting with armed agents of the State, even if that's the opposite of what the OP seems to want.

Comment Re:Overkill? (Score 1) 193

Unless they have hardware exploits I'm unaware of, they present exactly the same attack vectors based on the software installed. If you're running a Linux-based router, it'll have the same vector profile as a Linux-based PC router.

Since embedded devices frequently are far behind the update curve, they can actually present far more of a risk than a PC-based router.

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