Just goes to show the lengths people will go to try to get out of a ticket... sad really.

That's going to be one hell of an electric bill with the refrigerator door being open for so long.

Sacamer: Hi this is M$, we have detected a virus on your PC.
Callie: Really? What version of winblows am I using right now?
Scamer: Windows XP.
Callie: Try again there buddy, I use Linux. (click)

Valid point, but then also raises another question. How many times have you heard about people getting pressured to sign/not sign a petition vs. pressured to vote a certain way?

Also, how many petitions are passed around for people to sign each year vs. number of times you can vote in a year? Being that the number of petitions far outweigh the number of times you vote, they have that much less significance then a vote does, and thus a far less bullies trying to corrorse/pressure you for petitions then voting.

And if I do get my legs broken for signing/not signing a petition, my next stop after I get out of the hospital would be the PD to file charges for assault.

I support gay marriage, and the whole Prop 8 thing has to be frustrating, but if painting swastikas on a Jew's home, or beating an openly gay man just be cause he's gay, etc. are "Hate Crimes". Then de-facing a church or other religious intuition, a person's home, or a person because they are anti-gay should also be labeled as a "Hate Crime", other wise it's a double standard.

Expressing your opinion is one thing (name calling shouting, debating, etc.). but ANYONE who violently oppress' someone else for their beliefs should be prosecuted as a "Hate Crime" regardless of who is doing the oppressing.

No, because if who you vote for is known, the voting public can be corrorsed into voting for or against someone or something, and if you don't there could be any number of possible threats held against you (even if you don't vote at all). The outcome of a vote has more of a direct effect on who gets voted into gov. or if public option laws/ordinances are passed.

Petitions are more we the undersigned would like to see this happen/not happen to put pressure on current elected gov. to sway them your way, and thus doesn't have as much of an impact.

BTW, your signature is checked on an absentee ballot and the registration form, just as it is checked when you go to the polls, by comparing it to known copy of your signature.

No, Voting should remain as it is, you have to prove your ID and sign-in to vote, so that no one person can vote twice (their vote and yours). But who you vote for should not be a matter of public record. Petitions while related to voting do not carry the same weight as a vote, and names need to be verified to show that X number of people did in fact sign the petition.

That would require people to actually go out to the polls to vote, instead of just complaining bout the status quo... That is also assuming that the new person elected doesn't take the "bribes" from the lobbyists (GLWT).

damn, beat me too it!