If you had said Bits and Chips, or maybe BoredAtWork I think I would have understood. I'm afraid I don't understand Duckpins...

Hopefully I can get away with making it an exercise in appreciating beauty, and not get high centered trying to push the cart one way or the other. Not that Spitzer is, but it is something I'm personally worried about.

It is good to see you too. I wasn't expecting anyone to be around.

I hope you are doing well, friend.

I was remembering all the fun we had in the book of Genesis as I'm pondering making a YT video with this premise .... Is Genesis 1 useful for teaching kindergarteners about the big bang? Kindergarteners being a good modern approximation of stone / bronze age people and what they would have thought if they had a view of the history of the universe.

The answer is surprising, it is more useful in giving a picture of the early universe up through the Eocene than it was when I was growing up. Strikingly so, even.

For instance, light wasn't just a spark at the beginning, but it filled the universe for hundreds of thousands of years until the great inflation cooled things down enough. Then it would have looked something like a vast twilight that we can still see in the cosmic microwave background radiation. And that is just the morning and the evening of the first day. It actually seems to play pretty smoothly through the rest of the days as well.

Thanks for commenting. It is good to hear from you again.

You just tiptoed up to a point that I think is most interesting.

Why would we assume the Russians would do this to support Trump, instead of the candidate who is a self proclaimed socialist, on the eve of his last logistical chance of getting the nomination, who was the one who was directly hurt by the exposed actions?

Now I might have my reasons but to take this question one step further, why would Hillary or the DNC assume this was to help Trump and not Bernie?

Not as cute as finding out one of the 4-digit ID's is On Lawn? ;)

Thanks for your comments,

I don't think that I outlined a purpose in marriage other than the equal recognition of the contribution of the man and the woman.

The need for that equal recognition comes from the unique needs of having children.

Its probably a small distinction, but to me it is very significant. Not the procreation itself, but the need of civilization (unique from a natural circumstance) on top of procreation.

And, I'm not saying it is a unique need for egalitarian recognition, many other relationship types have that demand -- and I believe an investigation will find they are all civilized types of relationships. My point in this is that it is most evident as a need, and as such perchance the seed of civilization itself, to recognize that in the complementary unification of man and woman and the establishment of responsibility passed between parents and child. It is part of what I meant that Eve may have been the mother of necessity for history, that decree of need is its own construct though rooted in specific natural processes.

There is no need for me, after outlying the separation of our species from direct dependance on nature (and that separation being civilization in a social-industrial sense), to require that kin altruism or egalitarian model should be recognized as natural to procreation (or as I understand your words "flows from procreation"). But the need is nonetheless naturally recognized and understood in urgency because of the natural products which combine to procreate and transfer the responsibility of civilization from one generation to the next. It is that union of civilization and natural that creates another intersection of duality that adds gravity to the notion of it being a seed of civilization itself.

I'll take an exception to one other matter where you say, "The bond is not a function of which genitalia we are equipped with." I'm not talking about dividing gender down to genitalia, nor do I find it a productive pursuit in understanding the full sum of meaning that a sexual bond has between two people.

Gender is much deeper then genitalia. Gender is itself a construct which is recognized psychologically, biologically, and genetically. A realization of this comes from asking yourself the question, could a gay guy have the same bond with a woman that he has with is partner? How about a lesbian with a man? Certainly the psyche plays an influence on the bond created, and it is heavily influenced by the gender (however identified psychologically) of the other person.

But this is just a mirror of the biological or genetic processing of those differences between a man and a woman which is the difference, categorically, between creating another human being or not, or other characteristics built into our species sexual dimorphism.

Another experiment, go to a Doctor and tell them you are infertile. If they ask you how you know this, say because you are in a gay relationship and haven't had a child yet. His response is likely that homosexuality and infertility are completely orthogonal. So an infertile couple requires a man and a woman, so does sterility.

Infertility can have an effect on that bond, so does gender, so do many other things which we understand and want in a romance.

I'm not saying what importance there should be on those differences, I'm just noting they exist.

Multi-legalism seems to be the natural expression of multi-culturalism.

There, you might have something.

In writing that piece, I felt the strong pull of the muses to write the IFDEF based on identity politics. Perhaps the "I'm a homosexual so I am eugenically supposed to exclude the other gender from a marriage" identity basis for rights really does have its closest mirror in the "I'm a white and I'm eugenically supposed to exclude the other race from my society".

That you drew the parallel also seems to validate that identity politics is not equality, and hence invalidate neutering marriage for the sake of homosexual identity politics as equality.

Everyone I've argued with has at their core a sentiment like Captain Splendid, marriage has nothing to do with procreation or the equality between the man/woman/child they potentially have together.

Everyone I've discussed this with that defends marriage thinks that marriage equality should mean the equal recognition of the rights and responsibilities of the man/woman/child they potentially have together.

Those are distinct realities, and the only compromise can come from writing two different set of laws, depending on which reality they wish to project. Either that or one side is going to be thrown under the bus (in their own eyes).