InterNIC Blowing Up (again) 105
Active writes "Internic has a potentially major bug on it's hands: thousands of domains are showing up as not registered, from Microsoft.com to ESPN.com. Even slashdot.org and linux.com are showing up as not registered. I've tested it out and it let me register news.com and others. Many domains are showed up as registered. Apple.com, for example, is correct."
Eh? (Score:1)
It's an intermittent failure. (Score:1)
Toplevel domain ==
Second-level domain == sun.com, linux.org, linux.com, microsoft.com, etc.
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re: Demon Email Nameserver errors (Score:1)
Nick
Surprising (Score:1)
$whois internic.net
[rs.internic.net]
No match for "INTERNIC.NET".
The InterNIC Registration Services database contains ONLY...balh blah
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Your Favorite OS Sucks.
^D
DOH (Score:1)
Seriously though, it looks like they're pulling all the POC info.
Microsoft (Score:1)
[rs.internic.net]
No match for "MICROSOFT.COM".
We can all dream, can't we?
Testing it... (Score:1)
They're back... (Score:1)
2:54 PM EST, still messed up (Score:1)
Odd.. (Score:1)
I see no such odd behavior. Perhaps someone
queried Internic at the wrong time?
NJV
re: Demon Email Nameserver errors (Score:1)
So this might be why for the past few days whenever I send an email to my parents (they use UK Demon) I get errors:
... while talking to punt-1.mail.demon.net.:
The Gang that couldn't Route Straight (Score:1)
Put them out of our misery, please!
They have an ETA of 2:00 EST (Score:1)
I just called them. It appears that they are going through an upgrade, and everything will be fine by 2:00 PM EST.
Yah. Where´s the beef? (Score:1)
> server ns.internic.net
Default Server: ns.internic.net
Address: 198.41.0.4
> microsoft.com
Server: ns.internic.net
Address: 198.41.0.4
Non-authoritative answer:
microsoft.com nameserver = ATBD.microsoft.com
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS1.microsoft.com
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
Authoritative answers can be found from:
microsoft.com nameserver = ATBD.microsoft.com
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS1.microsoft.com
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
microsoft.com nameserver = DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
ATBD.microsoft.com internet address = 131.107.1.7
DNS1.microsoft.com internet address = 131.107.1.240
DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET internet address = 207.46.138.11
DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET internet address = 207.46.138.12
I thought it was just me (Score:1)
InterNIC tells me to use the same template I used. (Score:1)
I still haven't decided how lazy I should be about this: On 23 February, I sent in a domain modification to change one of my nameservers from a deceased machine to a new machine that had agreed to be secondary. This was switching a nameserver, not editing the existing nameserver entry. I know this should work because I actually used the text file from the LAST time I changed a nameserver.
InterNIC sends me back a reply saying that if I want to change ISPs, I have to use the enclosed template. The template they tack to the end is domain-template.txt [internic.net] version 4.0 - the exact template I sent them in the first place!
I might be missing something - but I doubt it.
Time will tell... (Score:1)
According to the new regulations, you have to prove that you are capable of providing this service - I think NSI is failing miserably. I can only hope the ruling body feels the same.
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in their offices these days.
personal NIC handles missing as well (Score:1)
But now I am seeing it again. Interesting.
And just one minute after it is gone again. May be they use some kind of load sharing and one of the servers has lost its DB ?
Internic Delays - to get your request processed... (Score:1)
> I registered a new domain last Sunday
> and it still hasn't been added.
1) If you don't get a reply email with a tracking number within an hour or so, resubmit.
2) If you do get a reply email with a tracking number, but they don't finish processing your submission, fax a copy of the reply email to them and they will process it manually. They need a copy of the reply email with the *tracking number* to do this, that's why there's step 1 first.
HTH
jc
Internic Delays (Score:1)
parting = Sorrow.sweet("such");
Ooooohhhhh.... (Score:1)
It's only partially b0rked (Score:1)
DIBS! (Score:1)
'Cute Screenshot' (Score:1)
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not - you probably are, but it's hard to tell on
responsible journalism (Score:1)
He panicked and whimpered over the possibility of libelous AC rumor-posts, then goes and does something like this voluntarily.
I'll bet he chases fire engines and ambulances in RL, too...
(I'll also bet this post gets scored extremely low for pointing out Rob's blunderous stupidity.)
responsible journalism (Score:1)
All of the 'get a clue' posts need to take your own advice. I come here for news (as do most others), and I find it embarrassingly irresponsible of Rob, knowing the effect a slashdot post can have on another site, to contribute to an already existing problem.
It's one thing when the linux counter *asks* him to post and then gets
As for you people who 'just don't get it', maybe Rob will one day add salt to one of your net wounds by handing your URL over to the 10,000's of readers who come here. With any luck, it'll melt your overclocked CPU and get you out of our hair for a few days.
Internic Turnaround NOT 24-48 hour (Score:1)
tracking number and all, but it still hasn't been added. Their website and e-mails from hostmaster advertise a 24-48 hour turnaround on new domains, but mine has been waiting a week now. This is ridiculous for something that even I could automate without too much trouble. Something definitely needs to be done about it.
Internic Delays (Score:1)
I think even *I* could write a system to check new domains and add them every night. Just delete them later on if you don't receive payment, but don't stop everyone from adding new ones. Maybe make everyone register their handle before they can add domains. Then, if I've been verified and always made payment in the past, they automatically register mine immediately.
Jason
Working dandy for me too. (Score:1)
Domain Name rationing system? (Score:1)
This would be something like the limit of tickets one person can buy at the box office, to prevent someone from buying a whole bunch and then scalping them.
Just a few random ideas.
-OT
Can't share data if the database doesn't work. (Score:1)
Hum - they couldn't share the data with the new registry agents if they, say, couldn't keep the data straight, now could they? I would think, however, that corruption should cause call for greater diversity and redundancy (MORE competition) in this arena. So, I would suspect its an honest mistake. Good luck to people with this system.
responsible journalism (Score:1)
You are an idiot.
since when is slashdot journalism? (Score:1)
"responsible journalism" or "prior restraint"? (Score:1)
Just how many queries do you think the whois servers and NSI registry servers get in an average hour?
If NSI can't handle 10,000 queries in a couple of hours,
THEY SHOULD GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS.
Not only that, but NSI of *all* companies involved with the net (that includes Microsoft, MCI and all the other 800 lb gorillas out there) deserves scrutiny for how they do business. From the very beginning, I've always felt it was unwise for the US government to hand over a critical function like domain registry to an obscure and basically unaccountable private business, and this just adds to the evidence of why I was right.
As for the impact on sites reported on in
Get real.
PS Not a few commenters here might want to brush up on their knowledge of how the net works. Start with the difference between "registry" and "name server."
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"Better than it used to be..." -- nonsense (Score:1)
And, yes, it was free (in effect, paid for by your tax dollars).
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Huh??? (Score:1)
[rs.internic.net]
No match for "MICROSOFT.COM".
think it's all working agin (Score:1)
Cool...
whois (Score:1)
No match for "SLASHDOT.ORG".
The InterNIC Registration Services database contains ONLY
non-military and non-US Government Domains and contacts.
Other associated whois servers:
American Registry for Internet Numbers - whois.arin.net
European IP Address Allocations - whois.ripe.net
Asia Pacific IP Address Allocations - whois.apnic.net
US Military - whois.nic.mil
US Government - whois.nic.gov
responsible journalism (Score:1)
<quote>
Rob posts it here so that 10,000 teenaged idiots can bring the site to its knees during its already existent instability. </quote>
Internic probably didn't even notice. With the servers handling the load that they are, a mere slashdot effect isn't likely to have much effect. On that note - it might be interesting to ask them if they did notice.
Time will tell... (Score:1)
a) Running root name servers and the back end whois database, as well as maintaining the authoritative zone files.
b) Selling and processing registrations.
New registrars will buy the things in (a) from Internic at the same rate that they sell it to their (b) unit.
So don't think that Internic is going to go away.
responsible journalism (Score:1)
If there really was an upgrade going on it probably has nothing to do with us looking things up.
Is this journalism? (Score:1)
I was trying to figure out how objective Rob & Crew could be for the linux.com [linux.com] announcement on slashdot. Rob is listed as being on the advisory board [linux.com] for the site. A journalist might decide not to run the story, or would hand it off to another reporter who did not have such an investment in the organization.
Now most of the time, the um, Slashdot editorial staff isn't posting items, such as this one, which are potential news makers in and of themselves. There have been a few times, such as the recent LinuxWorld conference where we would get a few snipets here and there.
But even so, this is not /.'s strong point. Slashdot is really good at filtering out everything else that is going on Out There(tm) and publishing links to news and information, a good portion of which I feel comfortable considering as journalism. And then we get to post comments about what we think (some of them off-topic), which isn't too far off from what Rob & Crew do in the two or three lines that usually accompany each post to the homepage.
When I come here (which is usually a couple times a day) I always consider the source, I use my own critical nogin, and I don't feel like I have to be led around by every piece of information that appears on slashdot.
cheers,
bnf
responsible journalism (Score:1)
my domains! (Score:1)
altavista.com => hotmail.com (Score:1)
slashdot.org is mine (Score:1)
bye bye rob
Another reason for alternate domains? (Score:1)
You can have linux.com too! (Score:1)
bwahahaha...it's mine all mine.
Well it IS NSI (Score:1)
Anyway it looks like the problem is getting fixed.
No contacts (Score:1)
The Internic DB is works now - OLD news (Score:1)
Old news by 1 h though
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To: DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
Subject: Re: Netsol's own gTLD nameserver 6 days behind?
From: Chuck Gomes Add to Contacts
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:56:13 -0500
By the time you read this the problem should be fixed. A problem was
encountered with hardware.
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Hayes Merritt, III [SMTP:harter@FEEDING.FRENZY.COM]
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 1999 9:47 AM
> To: DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
> Subject: Re: Netsol's own gTLD nameserver 6 days behind?
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
> > j.gtld-servers.net had 1999030600 which is nearly a week
> > behind the other nameservers
>
> Blah, its fixed.
> [sam@spleef sam]$ soa
> a.root-servers.net 199903120
> b.root-servers.net 199903120
> c.root-servers.net 199903120
> d.root-servers.net 199903120
> e.root-servers.net 199903120
> f.root-servers.net 199903120
> g.root-servers.net 199903120
> h.root-servers.net 199903120
> i.root-servers.net 199903120
> j.root-servers.net 199903120
> k.root-servers.net 199903120
> l.root-servers.net 199903120
>
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> http://www.frenzy.com/~harter/
>
>
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This is not as funny when you lose a domain name (Score:1)
Re: drop dead, speculator (Score:1)
Internic Turnaround NOT 24-48 hour (Score:1)
Bizarre. Didn't work. Now it does. (Score:1)
Well, now it CAN find 'em. Good.
It broke and came back to life.
Kinda like most things I happen across. Guitar amps, motherboards. Maybe I'm an incarnate Slashdot effect?
Still messed up (Score:1)
(11:45am)(jcs)(tty7)(~) whois internic.net
[rs.internic.net]
No match for "INTERNIC.NET".
Appears to be a corrupted database (Score:1)
Whois: whois a
getrecord: Error in format for file (NO EOR)
getrecord: Error in format for file (NO CR)
getrecord: Error in format for file (NO EOR)
getrecord: Error in format for file (NO CR)
[ snip ]
[No name] (a)
[ snip ]
No Subject Given (Score:1)
HAHAHA (Score:1)
Here's an idea! (Score:1)
Seriously though, some machine at internic.net is just being slow (Slashdot Effect??). I managed to get slashdot.org's and microsoft.com's registration information out of it..
Interestingly enough, by posting an article about their machines being messed up, we're messing them up more. The Slashdot Effect can be a destructive force, you know...
It's an intermittent failure. (Score:1)
whois looks like it fails about 50% of the time on microsoft.com, and when it does fail, it usually fails repeatedly. Could be a that only a few of their servers are actually hosed. Checking the regsistration online at www.internic.net seems to consistently work for me.