SUSE 10.1 Released 45
SolusSD writes "SUSE 10.1 was released today in both its fully open source version and its retail version. You can read up on changes with the version notes, and as always torrents are available."
With your bare hands?!?
damn (Score:3, Informative)
Re:damn (Score:2)
Perhaps you'd like to post it now?
Re:damn (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh yeah...
i386 [opensuse.org]
x86_64 [opensuse.org]
Everything Else [opensuse.org]
Re:damn (Score:1)
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Bittorrent (Score:2)
Seems like if you could have gotten a few thousand people to start downloading the torrent, and then started, you'd be in good shape. But
Re:Bittorrent (Score:3, Informative)
Granted, I'd rather not have a sudden influx of 1000 peers, as thats 1000 more full copies that need to go around and will hurt your dl speed more than it will help.
Re:Bittorrent (Score:2)
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Re:Bittorrent (Score:4, Informative)
Assuming the pieces download sequentially, they would all have pieces that you already have
They don't download sequentially. Each torrent client chooses what parts to request, but the proper behavior (and the one implemented by most all clients) is to request "least available first". They take a look at all of the peers and seeds out there and pick the block that has the fewest existing copies, and request that one. In practice, of course, there isn't just one least-available block, so they randomly select from the set of least-available. I think (but am not sure) that they may also have a bias in favor of peers that aren't too busy.
But you're right that getting more to join in the swarm won't speed up the downloads of those already in the swarm. As the swarm grows, the total bandwidth increases, but it does so in proportion to the numbe of peers. If all of those peers are downloading, then the increase bandwidth just gets divided among the increased peers. Theoretically, this shouldn't reduce your incoming data rate, but in practice there is some inefficiency, so it does. As some of the peers finish, though, they stop consuming so the bandwidth per remaining downloader goes up.
That all assumes everyone has roughly equal pipes, which is true, on average. Mostly, everyone has fast download and slow upload speeds. When some peers with fast symmetric connections hop on, then your actual download speed will see a boost because they're increasing the average available bandwidth. So if you can get a bunch of peers with those connections to join in, you should do it. Getting a bunch more that have the same average upstream speed won't help, though.
Re:It's too bad (Score:4, Insightful)
I put SuSE on my laptop a while back; you can go from having a blank hard drive and install SuSE without rebooting once. You install it, and when you're done, you log in and start using it.
It's easier to install than Windows, and if you're a business and you purchase SuSE, you get more for your money in every way...
But, I didn't use SuSE until it was owned by Novell, so... what's missing?
Re:It's too bad (Score:2)
I really don't see anything that has changed as a result of the acquisition.
KDE to Gnome...? (Score:2)
Color me stupid, but didn't they switch from KDE to Gnome as a result of the acquisition? Or was that just coincidental in timing?
How is KDE on SuSE now that they've made Gnome the 'official' or primary desktop?
Right now I'm using Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop packages (Kubuntu) and I'm really dissatisfied. Everything works, but it's just really rough around the edges. The GUI config utilities all seem to be broken, Konqueror randomly
Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:2)
Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:2)
Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:2)
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Re:KDE to Gnome...? (Score:3, Insightful)
then there are "ximian monkeys", who are gnome zealots to the point where they ride the web and add anonymous posts, announcing that kde is dead
personally i know a whole bunch of kde suse users, but i don't know a single suse-gnome user. though i've seen some lurking on irc, but they are not so awfully full of zealotry, so it is ok
i just hope that ximian heritage doesn't ruin a good distro. if kde will be neglecte
Re:It's too bad (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think that Novell is to blame for that. On the contrary, I think that Novell has put SuSE back on the right track.
I have been using SuSE since version 4. Yes, this is a long time ago. I have tried every single version since then. This makes a nice pile of boxes.
SuSE was by far my favorite distro until about version 8.1. Then it started getting bad (broken package dependencies, too much reliance on the graphical version of YaST2 while keyboard support was half-broken in the command-line version, settings and directory hierarchies incompatible with other distros, etc.). From my point of view, versions 8.x, 9.x and 10.0 sucked compared to other distributions available at that time. Now they are becoming good again with version 10.1.
I had really lost my faith in SuSE after several bad experiences with versions 8.x and 9.x. Version 10.0 was getting better but still a bit rough around the edges. Version 10.1 is much better. I hope that version 11 will be even better and will be able to compete with other distributions such as Ubuntu in terms of polish, features and user experience. (and before you ask: no, Ubuntu is not my favorite distro although I recommend it to most people)
Re:Tad short? (Score:2)
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link to i386 torrent (Score:5, Informative)
This release includes xgl support for KDE and gnome as well as several other nifty features!
Re:link to i386 torrent (Score:3, Informative)
download here [sourceforge.net].
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Good, but.. (Score:2, Funny)
Yes, actually! (Score:3, Informative)
So yes, SuSE will run Linux!
Mod Parent UP (Score:2)
Upgrading an existing system (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Upgrading an existing system (Score:3, Informative)
SUSE Xgl versus Dapper's implementation? (Score:4, Interesting)
I would expect SUSE would have a better Beagle install though, and that'd be fun to have.
xgl is big (Score:5, Interesting)
Xgl/Compiz may be key to the widespread adoption of this release. Because Ubuntu's soon-to-be-out next realease (i.e. Dapper Drake) does not include Xgl by default (although it is available via synaptic), I wonder if people will start gravitating toward Suse in search of nifty eye-candy (especially seeing as SuSe is currently hot on the heals of Ubuntu according to http://www.distrowatch.com/ [distrowatch.com]'s counter (to the extent that it can be trusted)...
Current operating systems (OSX, Windows, Linux) seem to be focusing on (debatably useful) eye-candy. OSX has included some pretty sweet stuff for a while, and one of the main focus points for Windows Vista seems to be the new Aero UI. Xgl is the open source community's answer to all this (of course, Xgl ended up beating Aero to the punch).
I ain't gonna upgrade! (Score:1)
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slow downloading (Score:2, Funny)
They say the DVD iso will be out in a week (Score:3, Informative)