PS3 Launch Details Announced 796
1.) I'm honestly surprised they're this far along with these titles. They may actually make the November launch.
2.) Even through an internet feed, it was obvious the only truly next-gen title there was Heavenly Sword (from the great folks at Ninja Theory). The EyeToy stuff looked cool, but isn't something I'm likely to try out any time soon. Most of the games could have been 360 or even late-lifetime Xbox titles.
3.) I won't be able to review games for this system at the launch price. There's no way I'm dropping $599 for a game console.
4.) The controller orientation thing is ... I don't have the words. Awkward? Cash-in? Cynical? Whatever their intent, it just seems like a bad idea.
Not necessarily a copy of the Wii (Score:5, Informative)
This is different from the Wii in that it can't determine its location in 3d space. While the functionality is similar, the Wii still has the upper hand in terms of the "unique" functionality of the controller.
It's a smart move on Sony's part, but the Wii will still be able to do things no other system can.
Re:Controller... (Score:5, Informative)
$499 USD / $549 CND
$599 USD / $659 CND
The exchange rate has gotten much higher lately.
Re:Wii or 360 (Score:2, Informative)
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No rumble in PS3 Controller (Score:5, Informative)
"Pursuant to the introduction of this new six-axis sensing system, the vibration feature that is currently available on DUALSHOCK® and DUALSHOCK®2 controllers for PlayStation and PlayStation®2, will be removed from the new PS3 controller as vibration itself interferes with information detected by the sensor."
See: http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/06050
Re:Where did they get that idea? (Score:2, Informative)
Strangely, Nintendo invested in that company [gamecubicle.com] in 2001.
Re:Where did they get that idea? (Score:2, Informative)
WiFi / HDMI / Flash Cards (Score:5, Informative)
The cheaper version will NOT have WiFi, flash card slots, or HDMI output.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/06050
Other details... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:As Microsoft Proved, People Will Pay That Price (Score:5, Informative)
The $499 base unit does not have HDMI out, does not have memory stick ports, and does not have 802.11b/g wireless.
See:
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/06050
Of course the games don't look better (Score:4, Informative)
The major graphics players have tons of R&D working overtime to keep cranking out new cards, and they throw everything they can in it. They don't have time to develop a 100% seperate architecture, nor can they afford to not put out their best technology in their cards. Thus, the console graphics cards are just modifications on their then-current technology. The 360 is more or less an ATi X1900, the PS3 will be more or less an nVidia 7900. They aren't directly comparable, since things are changed for console design, like using embedded RAM, different clock speeds, etc, but the basic technology and thus features is the same.
So fire up a PC with a 7900 in it, you get a pretty good idea what you are going to get with a PS3. You can't run benchmarks and expect them to be spot on, but you get an idea of the kind of visual features and pciture quality you can expect. Given that the 7900 and X1900 are performing in the same class, the 360 and PS3 will do so as well graphics wise. I'm sure certian titles will be tweaked a bit for one or the other, but I wouldn't expect to see either pull ahead a significant amount from the other.
Re:Prognostication (Score:2, Informative)
The base model lacks HDMI output, built-in WiFi, and the various memory card slots.
Re:My Thoughts (later news developments) (Score:4, Informative)
Second, it turns out they cut rumble to support the sensors [pro-g.co.uk], for obvious reasons.
So, they're cutting a long-standing feature to trade in for a novel feature that (after reading more about it) shows every sign of being half-assed that I'd expect to see. This has the stench of a management decision made against the recommendation of the engineers, and I bet the engineers about went ballistic when they were informed it had to be ready for E3.
I don't know about Japan, but I'm smelling Microsoft/Nintendo for this next generation, and I'm increasingly wondering if it might not be ~3:1 in Nintendo's favor in three years (which is about the earliest I'd say we can "call" the results of this generation). The opening lineup for the Wii may even best the Dreamcast's opening lineup, which was spectacular for the time (as long as you could get your RPG fix somewhere else...).
Re:controller (Score:2, Informative)
Unfortunately [scei.co.jp], it's got roll pitch yaw and accelerometers for X Y and Z axis. [Link blatently stolen from earlier post]
Re:Other details... (Score:5, Informative)
PS3 from the press release:
Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D)
Approximately 5 kg
The original Xbox
Dimensions: 320 × 100 × 260 milimeters (12.5 × 4 × 10.5 in)
Weight: 3.86 kilograms (8.5 lb)
Re:My favorite part (Score:3, Informative)
I've tried to play flying games with it (MS flight sim), and it sucked then, and I'll be surprised if it doesn't suck now. It's hard to get any precision from such things. Maybe they've improved, but I doubt it.
Re:Even more expensive than 360 (Score:5, Informative)
HD graphics : I'm not seeing a big improvement. In one case it looks like a step BACKWARD. Just take a look at their own comparison slide http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_2355.JPG [joystiq.com]! The PS3 version look like a pasty white guy!
Blu-Ray : One word : Hype. There has yet to be a game that spans more than 1 DVD and I'm not spending $500 for a movie player AND having to re-buy my movie collection.
Hard drive : Xbox did it years ago. The Xbox360 threw the ball away on it but considering the PS3 is priced at $500~$600, Sony just threw the ball back at Microsoft.
Online : Old news and Sony has a poor record of online gameplay. Its SOE division is one of the worst in terms of service and considering they DOMINATED last generation with the PS2, Xbox Live CRUSHED the PS2 in terms of online marketshare.
Wireless controllers : Two words : Nintendo Wavebird. And the Xbox360's controllers are wireless as well. Sony is really the last man out in this case. (And this doesn't count third party controllers.)
PS2 and PS1 full compatibility : Considering a PS1 is dirt cheap and insanely plentiful (I've seenen package deals including 10 games and the system for $50 USD) and the inevitable price drop to the all important $100 mark for the PS2 near/after the PS3's launch, this isn't really important.
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Re:Even more expensive than 360 (Score:2, Informative)
Star Ocean for PS2 - 2 DVDs.
Re:My favorite part (Score:1, Informative)
That's because the PS1 controller is perfect the way it is. Thank god they're not going to mess with it. The PS1 controller is the only controller since the SNES where you can press any two buttons simultaneously. The only thing annoying about it is pressing the diagonal buttons simultaneously. But at least that's still possible!
Have you ever tried playing Soul Calibur 2 on a GameCube pad? You throw by pressing X and B at the same time. There is another button between these two so you'd have to be a fucking contortionist to pull that off. http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/bgda/help/contro
This is why, when given the choice, all the respectable players in a fighting game tournament (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Third Strike, etc) prefer the PS version of the game.
Re:Even more expensive than 360 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Insane price (Score:3, Informative)