KOffice GUI Competition Winner 204
Boudewijn Rempt writes "The KOffice GUI Competition has been won by Martin Pfeiffer. His entry was chosen from eighteen submissions by the jury because of its innovative, ground-breaking approach to workflow and document handling. Many submitters broke away from the beaten path and explored wild and wonderful ideas. The results page also has all submitted entries available for review."
Check it out (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a pity the real poor coverage KOffice gets in the web compared to OpenOffice, being a really cool suite with great programs. It deserves a lot of respect what are they doing.
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Re:Koffice only has one disadvantage (Score:5, Insightful)
Importing
Re:Koffice only has one disadvantage (Score:2, Insightful)
It's not as good as OO.org at opening word docs, but I just tried one someone emailed me and it opened up fine and I could get at the content.
Even better, they're standardizing on the OpenDocument format. Hopefully, the more folks use opendocument the fewer issues exchanging files between different office apps.
Re:The actual proposal (Score:4, Insightful)
I think you need to view it less as the application having its own desktop so much as the office suite having a "workflow" view. There's plenty of space in the office suite market for such an overview option, particularly if it can provide a workflow overview of a inter-related corpus of various documents (spreadsheets, presentations, reports, etc.) as well as just a single document. Think in terms of how Aperture is a workflow oriented overview for photographers and imagine a workflow oriented overview for office workers. I think there's plenty of scope for dramatic improvements there.
Jedidiah.
Re:Check it out (Score:5, Insightful)
OpenOffice runs on Windows and OS X.
Given most computers run on Windows, that translates to more coverage. You want to slingshot KOffice into the limelight with OO.org port it to Windows.
It would also help Mass., with its ODF migration.
Re:What I'd like (Score:3, Insightful)
What about bash? Seriously, though, I don't know of a tool that can save a particular desktop context, although KDE tends to save the context on logout, so when you log back in it's pretty much as you logged out. I don't think it extends to files within apps, though, unless they are KDE apps.
It would make a great utility to sit in the task tray (for windows or for KDE or gnome or OSX or whatever): one click and it saves the complete desktop context (open files and all), and creates a desktop shortcut to that context. Maybe even with check boxes to exclude certain apps (like the mail client or mp3 player for example) from the save.
The sorry state of Open Source user interfaces (Score:5, Insightful)
After 20+ years of research results that tell people what good user interface guidelines are, plus companies such as Apple that have products that more-or-less adhere to these guidelines, it seems that the open source community (I know, equating
Re:It's not shiney enough. (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, kind of interesting your bank uses software programmed for Win95 - I thought most banks used OS/2
Re:It's not shiney enough. (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not about pretty versus functional, it's about immediate satisfaction versus long-term gain.
The quality of a search engine is immediately apparent. You either find what you are looking for or you don't.
The productivity of an office suite isn't immediately apparent. If it saves you a few hours per month, then the average person won't notice.
The prettiness of an office suite, on the other hand, is immediately apparent. The average person can load it up and go "ooh" or "ugh" straight away.
The OP's point stands: it's not about who's better, it's about who can impress the average end-user immediately. In the case of office suites, this is manifested as "prettiness wins". In the case of search engines, this is manifested as "relevant results win".
Re:It's not shiney enough. (Score:5, Insightful)
1) New version still works, and looks nicer.
2) New version no longer works.
The benfits on 1 do not outway the disaster of 2.
Re:Check it out (Score:3, Insightful)
Because it's open source and enough of us want it to. The whole point of open source is that it's less restrictive than commercial software.
In search of the elusive paper replacement (Score:3, Insightful)
The reason is simple - you can put anything down (that you can with a writing implement) anywhere on a piece of paper. For example, you can start with drawing a sketch in the middle. Then putting down some annotating text and connecting them with arrows to the sketch. Perhaps you could make a detailed diagram of an especially complicated part at a corner. On the back of the sheet you can make some quick back of envelope calculations. After you are done, you can put the whole thing safely in your wallet.
Do we care about typefaces, point sizes, and that sort of thing? No. All those have nothing to do with the formation, recording, and refining of ideas. However a lot of time was spent on these features that should really belong on an end node down near the very bottom of the creative process.
Re:The sorry state of Open Source user interfaces (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:We want verifiable results (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:We want verifiable results (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:It's not shiney enough. (Score:4, Insightful)
Geeks believing Yahoo is pretty is the reason we have ugly UI's on Linux.