Journal Cliff's Journal: An Inventory of Misleading BushAdmin Quotes on a .Gov Site! 36
When .gov sites like these start showing up, can the Independent Counsels be that far behind?
Well...yes! That particular law was encouraged to expire, and eventually did, on June 30th, 1999.
Still, it makes one wonder what the Justice Department is doing with the resonsibility it reassumed, with the death of the Independent Council Act. Why do we have a website made by the House of Representatives pointing out misleading comments by officials, that led to a war, instead of attempts at impeachments or censure for these same officials?
Hopefully the appearance of such sites means that someone is taking steps to make sure the current administration comes clean on the reasons they were made, in the first place. When such statements lead an invasion of a foreign country, in a war sold on false pretences, I would hope that someone would seek to find those responsible and make them answer to the American people as to why the trust we have place in them, to lead this country, has been so betrayed.
It's not that I want the Independent Counsel act to be reinstated, as was called for by Lieberman to investigate the Plame Affair. It has been used as a partisan weapon once too many times, with the taxpayers footing the bill of political prosecution after political prosecution. However it seems that this administration has been able to coast by on many questionable issues during its run, and in an Election Year, it is high time this administration becomes accountable for the things it has done, during its tenure in power.
Will this happen? Only time will tell...
Well...yes! That particular law was encouraged to expire, and eventually did, on June 30th, 1999.
Still, it makes one wonder what the Justice Department is doing with the resonsibility it reassumed, with the death of the Independent Council Act. Why do we have a website made by the House of Representatives pointing out misleading comments by officials, that led to a war, instead of attempts at impeachments or censure for these same officials?
Hopefully the appearance of such sites means that someone is taking steps to make sure the current administration comes clean on the reasons they were made, in the first place. When such statements lead an invasion of a foreign country, in a war sold on false pretences, I would hope that someone would seek to find those responsible and make them answer to the American people as to why the trust we have place in them, to lead this country, has been so betrayed.
It's not that I want the Independent Counsel act to be reinstated, as was called for by Lieberman to investigate the Plame Affair. It has been used as a partisan weapon once too many times, with the taxpayers footing the bill of political prosecution after political prosecution. However it seems that this administration has been able to coast by on many questionable issues during its run, and in an Election Year, it is high time this administration becomes accountable for the things it has done, during its tenure in power.
Will this happen? Only time will tell...
Still and all, I have to say, (Score:1)
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Was/Is Linda Tripp a republican?
Doesn't Whitewater being a "bad" investigation make any results of that investigation "fruit of the poisened tree"?
Did Clinton ever lie to get hundreds of our men and women in uniform (of which I was one, for 8 years) killed in a forign land?
Re:Still and all, I have to say, (Score:2)
Don't know, don't care. She was a nobody, as far as the party was concerned, until she brought the evidence. To say her party affiliation has any bearing on whether "the Republicans" were behind it is stupid.
Doesn't Whitewater being a "bad" investigation make any results of that investigation "fruit of the poisened tree"?
Maybe, but you were talking specifically about something a liberal Democrat was the responsible party for, and saying it was all the Republicans' fau
Re:Still and all, I have to say, (Score:1)
2.) Clinton lied about having sex with Lewinski, right? What lie is it you're refering to? My memo
Re:Still and all, I have to say, (Score:2)
Your suspicions are inaccurate.
She was in contact with people within the party, a publisher in particular, who was the first to encourage her to tape the conversations.
Yes, I know her publisher was in some contact with some Republicans. So what? They did it because Lewinsky had *perjured herself*, and told Tripp about it. Unless "the Republicans" forced them both to lie, I am not going to give a damn. And they didn't.
Clinton lied about h
That's lovely. (Score:2)
Is Anyone Else Bothered... (Score:2)
Re:Is Anyone Else Bothered... (Score:1)
No (Score:2)
While the majority of unwashed masses visit the fluff of the front page, the real heart and soul of /. is in the JEs.
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Yah (Score:2)
Seems to me that things would be better (or at least interesting) if we could have the vote of confidence. If our elected officials piss off enough people, they could promptly call for a VOC and then throw the bastards out, inste
Electorate Confidence (Score:2)
There is the matter of the succession and the continuance of government if such were to happen. I mean, what happenes when the President (and Vice President) does not win his Vote of Confidence? Who steps in? Members of Cabinet (who are more likely to implement the policies of the man you just kicked out)? The last President? Someone from another party (and if another part
Re:Is Anyone Else Bothered... (Score:2)
Ahh.... You're Joking, Right? (Score:2)
Actually, I've been told that I'm more libertarian and less liberal -- *shrug* -- these are only labels. Most "cover-all" labels are sincerely insufficient when describing the politics for any individual, but it satisfies the human need to "pigeonhole", so....
Re:Is Anyone Else Bothered... (Score:2)
I'm still steamed at Pudge. (See sig.)
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Even if you don't buy that -- even though everyone f
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Can you find a single example of where I had made an argument without backing it up sufficiently for you, and you complained about it, and I didn't provide additional support for my position? On the contrary, I remember quite clearly that in the thread where you decided to ban me from your journal, I produced two distinct examples of situations where the Bush administration admitted that they literally "
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I have done so several times, as every reader of our discussions well knows. I am not going to rehash it all and once again prove your lies to be lies.
However, I will answer your questions, sorta.
1. Why do you think the boldfaced reference to Bush's announced fiscal policies in the first statement was not included
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Every reader of our discussions knows that you have done this several times?!? I can't find a single instance, and so I suspect you are just making this up. If it has happened so many times, then it would be easy for you to point out just one instan
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Of course you can't: you have thinking problems, which is why you see no logical problems with your positions, even when they are pointed out to you.
it would be easy for you to point out just one instance
And you would just deny it says what it says, so why should I bother? You even quoted yourself saying what I said you said, and then denied you ever said it. Get a grip.
I ask every reader of this thread to post just a few examples of the several instances of which you
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How can you possibly claim that a statement in which I explicitly referred to an earlier factor involved with a temporal correlation is evidence that I lied when I said I never claimed there was only a temporal correlation?
As to your question about Kerry's tax policy, I would simply point you to the effectiveness of Clinton's large tax hike combined with targeted stimuli, most of which were various employer tax credits totalling a
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I explained this twice. You're really boring. But I will humor you, and try one last time.
It's a given that you believed investors didn't like Bush's policies. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had any of this discussion. But the context was me asking for *evidence* that Bush caused the
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Sorry I'm so boring.
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I'm your "single instance". Appologize to Pudge now and look less like a fool. Further, read your own journal linked on your sig -- theres more than just me who's made the observations made by Pudge.
I believe you are either incapable of rational arguments (i.e., you are stupid), or you are doing it deliberately (i.e., you are a troll). Either way, I
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So a congress critter's bleating (Score:2)
Shouldn't you be more outraged when say, memos showing collusion between congressmen and external groups to delay judicial appointments because of current cases in the system show up?
Perhaps that outrage should extend to the fact that the parties implicated in the memos are only yelling about "how did our memos become available?" Instead of, "well, gee, maybe we should investigate the information/a
Re:So a congress critter's bleating (Score:2)
Sorry about that, I wasn't aware that anyone had dibs... I'll uh... give it back.
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With respect to your other points, I'd have no problem drumming up outrage (or counters) to your points, if you were willing to back them up with links or external citations. I'm perfectly willing to drum up and criticise the government in its abuses, no matter what party is in charge!
GAH! (Score:2)
The correct quote I wanted to refer to was: I will now be ridiculed in my own journal, and I deserve it. Such is life!
Oh, but it's quite amusing (Score:2)