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It takes blood and sacrifice to love

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  • Love is sacrifice of your self. Love is preference for another over yourself - even when the object of Love does not fulfil desires or expectations.

    Abandoning Love because the your conditions are not being met is self-love.

    All the universe subsists because of Love. Yet, it is singularly rare.

    • I'd even say- especially when the object of your love does not fulfill desires or expectations, is the time when you need to love all the more.

  • Please tell me that literally none of that is orthodox Catholicism.

    • ALL of it is- it's the difference between orthodox Catholicism and postmodern feel-good ask nothing of anybody Christianity.

      JRR Tolkien was Roman Catholic. CS Lewis, High Anglican. They both worked this in to their stories, which is where the language this priest is using comes from; but the major concept that love and repentance take sacrifice is indeed a universal law, from long before Christ chose to die for our sins.

      • It's interesting to me that you've brought the concept of time into this, via a couple of references here, and write as tho it's an integral part of why you believe what you believe.

        For me, I wouldn't take anything my pastor says unless it's Biblically-grounded, no matter how old the idea is. (Any more than I'd take for example what Glenn Beck says on political issues, without multiple corroborating evidence to support it.) Granted I place a certain amount of trust in someone who I deem to be honest and par

        • "It's interesting to me that you've brought the concept of time into this, via a couple of references here, and write as tho it's an integral part of why you believe what you believe."

          That's because it is, in a very strong way. It's how I reconcile religion to science- by the one thing most modern science NEVER bothers to take into account, the test of time.

          It's also where Protestantism simply fails for me. 5 centuries of denying legitimate authority and cutting theology off from everything that happened

          • I would suggest the purpose of Hell is for there just to be some "other place" besides Heaven (for those who choose it -- Free Will honored, to the last possible moment). Separation from God would make it miserable no matter what it was called -- the foolishness of actually choosing to go where there, think about it, are only wicked people, is astounding.

            How sad that you worship a sadistic god, that requires suffering. I couldn't worship a god like that. And if Catholicism really is, by intention, open to P

            • "How sad that you worship a sadistic god, that requires suffering. I couldn't worship a god like that."

              Exactly the mistake that the atheists make- that tough love is somehow sadism, that one can convert without change.

              "Just that phrase you wrote, "the Fullness of Truth in Christ", sets off warning bells in me. The Gospel is a really simple truth -- there is no "fullness" to speak of in it."

              And the Gospel is not all there is of Christ. John 21:25. Catholics worship the Trinity, not the Bible like the Prote

              • If God wants us to suffer, then why, when He walked among us, as one of us, did He alleviate our suffering?

                Afterall, He could've constrained his miracles to just walking on water and other signs only for the purpose of establishing of His deity, and not engaged in any healing or feeding or anything else that was in opposition to your blessed human suffering. Is Christ to you a separate being from God, and He (Christ) was going against Him (God) in these acts?

                And like I said, I don't recall any command on th

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