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Comment: Re:Any police killed in the crossfire? (Score 1) 143

by znrt (#49465737) Attached to: Spain's Hologram Protest: Thousands Join Virtual March In Madrid

because they are in every big protest, and have been identified many times. because you can spot them wearing headphones and talking to center command. because they have been captured on video throwing stones and inciting riots. because they are routinely identified and exposed by the crowd, and told to get the fuck out of the demonstration, which they promptly do, although not a single one of them has been harmed up to this date in these situations (on one instance however they got scared and had to be rescued by anti-riots, although anybody had touched a single hair of them, just shouts). because the fact is 99% of people in these demonstrations is peaceful and has actually very good reasons to be there.

Comment: Re:The truth is, as always, more complicated... (Score 1) 143

by znrt (#49465569) Attached to: Spain's Hologram Protest: Thousands Join Virtual March In Madrid

to add to this, there is a brand new political force in spain ("podemos", literally "we can") that is expected to overturn both traditional (right/lefty right bipartisanship) pro-stablishment parties. this is an absolute novelty. this new political party does have some "left" ideology although it declares itself neutral (go figure). it's supposedly a grassroots party made up of simple citizen, and there is a very real chance they get to power. main program points are emergency mitigation of social impact of the financial crisis, fighting corruption and reconstruction of presently greatly diminished democracy.

however, being myself very skeptical about this new party, the real danger to fear if they get to power isn't what they could do, but the predictable reaction of the right (plus probably part of the left) which i expect to be specially ruthless and might even end in a coup d'état or even a bloodbath. spain is essentially a deeply corrupt oligarchy and they will not allow to be displaced so easily. has happened before (see spanish civil war).

Comment: Re:The truth is, as always, more complicated... (Score 1) 143

by znrt (#49465431) Attached to: Spain's Hologram Protest: Thousands Join Virtual March In Madrid

this poster above must be the equivalent of a teabagger. just to put his bullshit in context.

the spanish "left" has been a minority since franco. there is no real viable "left" alternative as much as there isn't any in the us, where calling democrats "left" would be a big stretch (that would be in spain the official workers party, for which "socialism" is just a funny part of the name, and just equally corrupt as the right.)

the part about protests is just outright lie. while there's little positive to say about the official spanish "left" (which actually isn't) there is nothing more socially hostile, disrupting and ruthless than the spanish "right" in opposition, on every level. they control the media, the judiciary and most big businesses and know all too well how to use that to good advantage. on the streets, spain has still a very signifficant share of far right extremists, and they are tightly entrenched with the police. most violent actions from these extreme right groups go largely ignored, if not directly supported by the police. anticapitalist or mere social protests, however, are dealt with switly and harshly, with people having got hefty fines or even jail time just for being randomly picked up at or near protests. this recent gag law is just pushing to a extreme what has been an already dire situation for people's rights for years, as has been extensively reported by world oprganizations abroad already. yes, it seems bad things are about to happen, and they know it. i'm guessing they even want them to happen ...

Comment: Re:The internet generation (Score 1) 131

by znrt (#49440473) Attached to: Why Some Developers Are Live-Streaming Their Coding Sessions

Social networks don't turn people in to narcissistic pricks, it feeds on the fact that most people already are.

narcissism is to a great extent a consequence of our failed social education impregnated with sick individualism, from which social networks are part of so yes, they do. if not the root cause, still a great amplifier.

at least it has some utility, since they expose themselves in public: if you are looking for a decent coder you can safely filter out prima donnas like this and spare you some headache.

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

ok, then. can we be friends now? :-)

also please note i never told anyone how to express themselves. i just pointed out the underlying nonsense in response to someone sort of reprobating someone else for the pun word "usians". of course it was a pun, but you guys should expect that (and hopefully with a tiny bit of humor) from the moment on you mangle meanings in such a way. not a problem at all but it's just natural that other people might get confused.

btw, both [sic]'s i assume were also a joke. just for the record, i didn't get it. i hate missing jokes.

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

no, you were wrong. you said:

I only speak four, and here are the words they use:
Spanish: americano
Italian: americano
French: américain
German: Amerikaner

which implies that's the only form. it isn't. at all. its adoption varies but other forms are actually more prevalent in several instances, probably most. spanish language academy, for instance, expressly states that "americano" in lieu of "estadounidense" is incorrect, and should not be used. that's a board of over 40 phylologists and i'd say they have a point. of course if you disagree (or think they're just being arrogant), you can go argue with them.

while I have been making an impartial observation on their actual prevalence in usage

wrong again. see above.

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

I chuckle that you have the hubris to think you can speak for the personal life experience of someone you don't even know

i didn't. i'm speaking for my personal experience. it's obviously different from yours.

and adopt an arrogant tone while doing it.

oh, did i? come on, i just played your words, why so stiff?

If you wish to continue trying to dictate what I know from own experience, you may carry on the conversation with my hand, as I have no interest in you telling me your "facts."

the "offensive word" ((c) monkeyzoo) has different penetration. it is more common in germany as in spain, more common in casual speech as formal, written or media, and it was also more common some decades ago. i guess it depends on the context but fact is it isn't at all universal, so ...

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

As others have pointed out in their replies, that's not the case

it's indeed the case, at least for the languages i cited. monkeyzoo (not 'others', he's the only one making this incorrect statement) is actually wrong and you can check that easily out.

is there anything (again, non-contrived) we could discuss that would apply to people in Seattle and Sao Paolo but not to people in Stuttgart and Sydney?

dunno. are you sure there isn't? anyway, what if i tell you that people in several countries call themselves "americanos" too? will you then spot the basic contradiction?

Really, it sounds like this is just a proxy for resentment of the US.

absolutely not. i just pointed out a fact. i had no idea it would have such an impact. but i've been moded troll (wow!) and even had someone declare me his "foe" (lolololol). this wasn't expected but i have to say i do find this fortuitous trolling incident quite funny.

it's still silly and incorrect, but i do understand it is difficult to overcome cultural impregnation even if it's wrong. every language and variation has plenty of those, anyway. i have really no hard stance in this and realize it will not be easy to come along on such, er ... sensible? matters. thank you for your time and informative comments, anyway!

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

even though "america" doesn't mean what you think it means

...the lands of the western hemisphere including North, Central, & S. America & the W. Indies

thank you, so it logically follows that "american" should apply to what? thank you for demonstrating my point.

What did you think, pedant?

same as you, apparently!

As you said, "among native English speakers this usage is almost universal".
So should all of us native speakers re-learn our language

not at all. you can call yourselves whatever you like. i'm just pointing out it is incorrect.

from a bunch of people who can't pronounce "h" or "th"?

sorry? don0t get what's your problem here.

Comment: Re: I do not understand (Score 1) 538

Most European languages???
I only speak four, and here are the words they use:

Spanish: americano
Italian: americano
French: américain
German: Amerikaner

I can go just about anywhere in the world and use one of these languages (or English). So, I'm gonna call B.S. on your statement.
In fact, I find that in Europe, Europeans are more likely than US citizens to use the "offensive" word, because we Americans know we have neighbors to the south and north who don't always like it.

you're wrong.

in spanish "estadounidense" is the official term, while "norteamericano" is also used, and ocassionally "americano" but you will never hear that in the media. portugese also say "estadunidense".

in german it's "Nordamerikaner", "Amerikaner" and "US-amerikanisch" can also be heard. french indeed say "étasunien" and "américain". italian say either "nordamericano" or simply "americano"

it seems you can go just about anywhere in the world and still not learn anything from it.

which is the "offensive" word, btw? (not that i'm wanting to use it, just curious :D)

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