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Comment: Re:Fracking takes water out of action (Score 1) 191

by xdor (#47886353) Attached to: US Rust Belt Manufacturing Rebounds Via Fracking Boom

I was referring to the difference between Mars and Earth where Mars lacks the gravitational pull to retain oxygen, Earth still does.

Despite the escape of atmospheric hydrogen, its constantly being produced by algae, and fresh-water algae tend to grow more when things are warmer. I don't think hydrogen loss is the king-pin for the billion-year epoch dooms-day you're describing.

Comment: Re:What about green fracking? (Score 1) 191

by xdor (#47861511) Attached to: US Rust Belt Manufacturing Rebounds Via Fracking Boom

The "greenest" fracking I'm aware of is propane-fracking. Uses propane instead of water as the fracking medium.

No water is used, some of the propane can be recovered, the remaining is suitable as a crude oil. As an added plus, unlike water, no radioactive radon is conducted back to the surface with this process.

Some Canadian company has applied for a patent to the process in the United States. IMO, this should be declined since Chevron invented the process back in the 70s for under-sea fracking. Not to mention if there ever was a case for making an invention public domain in the interest of the public!

The downsides are obvious: huge upfront costs (somewhere between $20 and $50 million per well maybe). And just a little more dangerous than working with water. Just a little.

Comment: Re:Fracking takes water out of action (Score 3, Interesting) 191

by xdor (#47861431) Attached to: US Rust Belt Manufacturing Rebounds Via Fracking Boom

In terms of the universe, you are probably correct.

However, I notice that pure combustion of methane gas yields carbon dioxide and water vapor (incomplete combustion yielding some nasty things like carbon monoxide). So all of this pulling of methane from underground and subsequent combustion: yields water vapor and a gas plants use to grow and thereby convert to CO2 to oxygen, which bound to hydrogen yields water.

So eventually, we will get the water back. And I'm not sure if the numbers work out (gallons of water polluted vs. amount of water vapor produced from millions of cubic feet of methane), but it seems there's a possibility, over time, we will actually have *more* water in circulation as a result.

Comment: Re:Transition fuel (Score 1) 191

by xdor (#47861337) Attached to: US Rust Belt Manufacturing Rebounds Via Fracking Boom

Maybe you missed the natural gas and propane shortages that occurred in the north-central regions last winter due the Canadian pipe-line explosion.

I totally agree that everyone should move to southern California so we don't waste all this energy just keeping people from freezing to death in these regions, but until that's practical you might notice that some people actually need this stuff.

Comment: Re:Memes = Politics? (Score 2) 126

by xdor (#47773939) Attached to: Indiana University Researchers Get $1 Million Grant To Study Memes

Which is why I suggest the grant money to study memes is really to fund a high-profile congressional campaign's viral marketing budget, using this pretense of "testing" political memes. Especially, if by some coincidence, the memes tested are for said high-profile congressional campaign.

Either that or the article is just trolling...

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