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Journal tomhudson's Journal: Something different for Troll Tuesday - Pick a Name/Nym Poll 72

For those of you who have been following along with what's been going on in my personal life (and for those who haven't, read this thread), I have a new poll, as suggested in this thread.

So, pick more gender-appropriate first and middle names that will eventually find their way to my revised birth certificate, and a more appropriate nym for slashdot (for those of you who know the one I've been using to post elsewhere, no cheating!!! That is a temporary measure).

. Thanks to FidelCatsro for reminding me here - gender-neutral names are a no-no. I have had enough confusion in my life - I don't want to perpetuate it :-)

. The legal stuff:

Some conditions apply. Void where prohibited by fundamentalist kooks. Limit 100 entries per account. Bonus points for posting reasons for your choices. All references to Pineapple on Pizza will be rejected. Existing nyms not eligible for recycling.

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Something different for Troll Tuesday - Pick a Name/Nym Poll

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  • !tomhudson
    (can your nick start with a ! I wonder?)
    Or maybe:
    galformerlyknownastomhudson (what are the length limits?)
    or maybe GFKAtomhudson
    or GFKATH (sweet, random gibberish, though it looks like girl friend kath abrreviated)
    • Those might work as nyms, but I think the government will reject it on a change of name application or birth certificate :-)
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        • Sorry, Sammy. The first one's great, but its already taken in my immediate family, and the second one is ... just not me in any shape, manner or form ... it evokes the "Josephine the Plumber" character from some TV show or commercial or other.

          Yu're sure welcome to try again, though. You were on the right track with the first one :-)

        • Yeah, if you are going to pick your name, make sure it works out into a cool online name. Or work backwards from a cool online name. :-)
          • I was thinking perhaps the two don't have to be related ... the offline name would be to restore *some* sense of privacy to my life ... you know, allow me to just try to live a more-or-less normal life, and not have to worry that anyone doing a google and going "OMFG she used to be a he!" when it's all finished. Office gossip and such can get quite nasty.

            I'll give you a +1 Calls for clarification since it gives me the chance to explain my thinking more.

  • Have I done the Mr oblivious thing again .. I do that occasionally ...Or am I just totally confused again , which is also common .
    Here are some great Gender neutral names .
    Gabriel (gabe-ri-el or Gabriel )
    Julian (Julian or July Ann)
    Gillian (gill or Jill)
    Ashara (ash or Shara )

  • I'm still not wholly convinced that you truly are transsexual and not trolling, but either way your writing still rocks, so...

    I used Thomas Hudson as a starting point and attempted to use those letters in an anagram. About the only feminine first name I could get was Mona, though you can also get Modona out of their, too;-) Last names were a bit trickier because all the combinations that I found sounded made-up. I realize they are, but... Shoduth, Dushoth, and, assuming you go with Modona, Thush and Sh

    • I always like the names Isla and Iona .
      "I'm still not wholly convinced that you truly are transsexual and not trolling"
      I had no idea the issue had even been raised .
      Either way, you have my full support .
      • I always like the names Isla and Iona .

        Interesting choices - with a european flair. I was on the phone with one of my friends last night, and he asked me if he could pick a french name, since we're in Quebec. I said, "sure."

        "I'm still not wholly convinced that you truly are transsexual and not trolling"

        I had no idea the issue had even been raised .

        Either way, you have my full support .

        Thanks. I thought you knew. I guess you didn't see other people raise the question multiple times in the discu

        • It occurred to me , but I put it to the side as I don't like to make assumptions on things like this (has got me into trouble before) .
          I did see them raise the question , but I had thought you mentioned it in a light hearted manner as opposed to an opening up .
          Like you said to that anon person , doesn't take one to know about one (to paraphrase in a rather short way) .. therein I drew my conclusion .
          I can't say I could totally relate to the situation , best I could do would be me having to come to accept th
          • I did see them raise the question , but I had thought you mentioned it in a light hearted manner as opposed to an opening up .

            The funny thing was, it was never my intention to "open up". I was *so* worried about what could happen if people guessed. You can't believe how I hesitated before submitting the first nstallment. Then I figured, "oh, what the heck, people know I write about EVERYTHING, so why not this?" Its like the battle with On Lawn in my journal - 3 weeks it took, and at no point did anyone

            • I do believe your children should always comes first , not to say that you couldn't have done both , but you made your choice and as I understand from your writtings , your kids have turned up fine .. so perhaps you made the right choice , as we will never know what would have happened if you had made the other choice , I think it is in the best interests of mental health to accept that you made the right choice back then and are making the right choice right now .

              I can very much relate to PTSD . The culmin
    • Nobody's ever sure I'm not trolling any more :-) Especially on Tuesdays.

      But no, I've known this since I was a kid. Got beaten up enough over it in school, ot of school, etc. Others just "sense" that you're different. And the 2D:4D digit ratio is a dead giveaway in my case - both index fingers a good 1/4" longer than my ring fingers ... Check out your hands - you'll see what I mean.

      The law here allows for last name changes except in 2 cases - married women are required to keep their original last name n

      • In that case .. More power to you.
        You have my full support (for all that is worth , as much as i can and as much as is needed) .
        You are after all the same person . I am sure you already know my position on these things , but it is good to announce it i feel .
      • And the 2D:4D digit ratio is a dead giveaway in my case - both index fingers a good 1/4" longer than my ring fingers

        As are mine, which proves nothing other than the dubiousness of using the 2D:4D ratio as an indicator of pretty much anything. While I think it's a little premature to discredit it altogether, I'd be wary of reading too much into it.

        • It also depends on ethic background - in some genetic populations, its the norm. And definitely don't take it as the be-all indicator. If you've never had any doubts (or even if you have) it doesn't mean much, except that many m2f transsexuals also have this, and it ties in with the findings of the different brain structure in the areas that determine how you perceive yourself, gender-wise.

          Short version: if you're not an M2fTS, don't worry about it. If you are, now you know why women's gloves fit better

        • As are mine

          Well then, I'm afraid that scientifically leaves you with two choices to rectify things:

          1. Lop off your willy. Your Johnson. Your tadger. Your one-eyed trouser snake. Your...well, you get the idea.

          2. Lop off your index finger. Your...uh, index finger.

          Of course, my index finger is about the same length as my ring finger, which must explain why I speak in thith outrageouth lithp and adore Laura Athley [lauraashley.com] catalogths.

          Cheers,

          Ethelred
          (who is going out to chop wood with his forehead)

      • Well with all the [tt] references sprinkled about I just wasn't sure;-) FWIW you have my total support and, frankly, it really doesn't change a thing. The only important thing to me is that you elt us know your new UID so we can friend you there;-)

        I am not sure I can fully fathom what you are going through, but I know that when you know something deep down you have to follow it. Best of luck to you!

        • Thanks for the support. I think it might help to understand if you read this comment [slashdot.org] I made in response to another puzzled reader.

          It explains how my alternatives are either move forward or die. Because it got to that point, and I'm realistic enough to know that it still can if I'm not careful. If someone had told me that it could be that bad, I would have been skeptical. Having shared the experience with other transsexuals, I know that I'm not alone.

  • Ginger Spice? (ducks!)

    I don't think Beckham uses it no more.
  • by Tet ( 2721 )
    What's wrong with Tom? It commonly implies male, but I know a girl called Tom too, and it's not gender specifc in the way that, say, Andrew or James would be. According to the Interweb, Thomas is the 1796th most common female name in the USA. But if you really don't want to keep it, why not just pick a name you like? We can't guess that. For me, it's hard to beat Zarathustra. Yeah, it's a male name, but it contracts to Zara. Besides, Tethys is a female name, but that doesn't stop me using it. Who cares what
    • Sometimes you just want to break away and start a fresh , away from things that remind you of your past . Not that you are hiding from them , but you want to jump right in to your new identity and become who you are and stop being what you were .

      purely symbolic , but there is a great deal of good that symbolic gestures can do for us .
      Hudson (as for now till you have a new name TH) will always be the same person , but the new name is pronouncing it to the world , standing proud and saying this is who I am .

      I
      • Sometimes you just want to break away and start a fresh , away from things that remind you of your past . Not that you are hiding from them , but you want to jump right in to your new identity and become who you are and stop being what you were .

        Certainly, in the "real world", its necessary. I don't want people asking for Mr. so-and-so based on the name when they phone me, for example. Or worse - "Hey dude, how's it hanging?" Much embarassment for everyone. (see - I can still make fun of myself :-)

        pu

        • Another small question .. what pronoun should we use right now ?
          He or She ?
          I am sure I will also have a myriad of question as time goes on ,no better way to learn and understand than from talking to someone going through something. ;) So I apologise in advance , incase I start asking lots of silly questions .
          • Another small question .. what pronoun should we use right now ?

            He or She ?

            The law where I live says "she" or "her".

            What counts is what's between the ears, or, as a Quebec judge put it in a Quebec Human Rights Tribunal ruling:

            (M. L. vs Maison des jeunes TDPQ judgment 500-53-000078-970)

            "sex does not include just the state of a person
            but also the very process of the unification and
            transformation that make up transsexualism.

            This ruling was made in response to a transsexuals' being discriminated a

            • While this is a big problem in the US, in Canada, the law says you use the facilities of your target gender while transitioning.

              We just had a discussion about this in my Women's Studies class in the US. I forget if it's federal law, or just most states, but it is legal to use either gender's restroom - regardless of whether you are transsexual, transgender, transitioning, or anything else. Granted, as a personal safety issue it's not always practical, and it's quite possible for Bad Things to happen v
              • Really? I should imagine it would come under "disturbing the peace" or "contrary to public order" or "public mischief." (I don't know if you have that last one down there.) ...or just "general busybodyness". It certainly seems to be a major preoccupation in on-line discussions.

                Part of the problem is that male-to-female transsexuals are an easy target for hate crimes. A lot of men equate transsexualism with homosexuality, for some strange reason, and most men who react violently against transsexuals have

                • The video we saw was "Toilet Training", by the Sylvia Riviera Law Project. I am almost positive that using the opposite gender's bathroom is not explicitly prohibited anywhere in the US, and I'm pretty sure that it's explicitly allowed in several states (NY being one). As far as the whole general busybodiness thing ... that's a social issue, not a legal one. We do have disturbing the peace and all that, but I think the video stated that there has never been a successful challenge of bathroom choice under
            • The reason I bring up the pronouns for right now , whilst you are still under the current nym , is that you mentioned you didn't want to have to deal with the "She used to be a He" shit.
              naturally I would instinctively use the She Pronoun , but safe than sorry if you are wanted to keep it a bit less public on this nym to avoid confusion.
              On a totally unrelated note , I just found that my beef nuggets i buy (think beef jerky but more nugget shape) has a Halal logo on it ,whilst it is missing a Kosher label ,
              • The reason I bring up the pronouns for right now , whilst you are still under the current nym , is that you mentioned you didn't want to have to deal with the "She used to be a He" shit.

                I'm going to have to do something about that so that everyone can figure it out. Maybe just add my new name (whether its the one I currently use elsewhere, or one that the group, or my friends in real life, ultimately come up with) at the bottom of each post ...

                naturally I would instinctively use the She Pronoun , but

                • Please don't regret posting it , ;) if some people start giving you hassle , send them my way and I will straighten them up with a face to face discussion with my two friends of brass, lefty and righty heh. Certainly gives me a deeper insight in to what you are going through and have gone through

                  If it makes you feel a little more at ease , I will tell you something about me that I often do not talk about , My childhood.
                  All was well in my youngest years , I was a very happy child and almost always had a smil
                  • Thank you for your moral support. Its bad enugh kids blame themselves when parents screw up their lives - then the parents reinforce this, its a disaster. I've seen well-educated people (heck, a university professor) continue to harbour resentment over their children being born at an "inconvenient time." Of course, the simple answer is "you should have put a knot in it!"

                    We know on an intellectual level that it was never our fault, but darned, its not at the intellectual level that we're hurt/hurting.

                    Som

                    • My current reaction to violence is far more balanced , I will jump to the defence of someone or self defence , but if possible I will restrain the person rather than knock them cold (Which I am quite capable of) .
                      My natural first reaction is diplomacy , and if I do say so myself , I have a great deal of skill in that area . I have managed to stop many fights with just a few words(Being 6' and having a very large build doesn't hurt either )
                      Empathy is very important .. however it can go too far . My mood is h
    • You have a point on the user name ... but I do want to investigate all possibilities.

      Zara by itself is intriguing ... I'll have to thik about it a while ...

      Who cares what society thinks?

      This is the same society I just want to quietly merge into and live a plain ordinary life, or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

      One of the stranger things I've found is that my interests and goals have undergone a serious revision lately ... and I have been told it will continue to evolve as I become more and more able

      • Coming to think of it , I am also changing my name (not my nym ) whilst still keeping my original name I will surround it with my Hebrew name.
        I have decided not to revive my ancestral lineage in the name and go with Ben Avraham for the surname as a statement , as it is the proselyte name and it signifies the change to a greater extent .
        Though I am still unsure on my First name in the Hebrew world .
        I do like Mal'ahi (Messenger) .. and I am sorely tempted by Lucifer (Light bringer) because I like the name an
    • "A Boy Named Sue" is one thing. "A Boy Named Sue" who used to be a girl is another (yeah, yeah, it's the other way around - same thing). I think the changing of the name-gender is important both as a symbol (of a shift in external identity) and as a way of reducing confusion ("Yes, I'm a woman named Tom. Yes, I used to have a penis, and I have a masculine name, but I'm still a woman").
      • I think you've pretty much described why a name change is so important, and why it has to be one that is gender-specific, instead of gender-neutral. Thanks. +1 Informative

        • I hope you didn't mod, then post about the mod in the same JE ;-)
          • No no - those aren't real moderations :-)

            They're just a friendly way to say "thank you." I haven't had mod points in I don't know HOW long ...

            That being said, one of the fun things to do on Troll Tuesday is post a completely insane comment, with a title like : "Microsoft indicted for slavery +5: Informative" and watch as people go nuts saying "Who the !*$^ modded that as Informative?

            Its also pretty much guaranteed to get 3 down-mods to -1 Troll within minutes, thus disarming a few of the more clueles

  • "Ethelredia".

    Oh, I'm sorry, that's the one I would like you not to use. Y'know, just in case I decide to...*winkwink*

    (Hey, nobody's gotten a -1, Flamebait outta you yet, so I may as well be the first.)

    Cheers,

    E[tt]helred

    • Hmmmm, I like alliteration, so how about "Holly", "Helen", "Heather"...

      ...or something more obscure, like a Welsh name -- like "Heulwen" or "Hafwen"...

      ...or, dare I say it, "Hermione". :-)

      Cheers,

      Ethelred

    • "Ethelredia".

      Oh, I'm sorry, that's the one I would like you not to use. Y'know, just in case I decide to...*winkwink*

      (Hey, nobody's gotten a -1, Flamebait outta you yet, so I may as well be the first.)

      I should dig out your comment about you posting while wearing your pink tutu ...

      This one was easy to find - its in my 3-week war with On Lawn on gay and lesbian marriage :-)

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=117177&cid=991 8506 [slashdot.org]

      humour tags inserted because this thread has attracted some poste

      • Well, I don't have a pink tutu, so I guess I should be jealous.

        Clearly you missed the part about the sheer utter manliness of a pink tutu.

        Then again, I did pick up a couple of nice skirts at 40% off last week when a friend brought me to the mall to pick up dog food. He said "typical woman" when I explained that I have never run into a sale I didn't like. Mind you, he said this just after he hit the electronics and power tools departments.

        You don't understand. Dresses are unnecessary fluff.* Tools ar

        • Nothing gets the testosterone pumping like a pink tutu ,some pink ballet shoes and a pink leotard.
          It allows my manliness to become its fullest .going down the pub in one is a pleasure .. don't forgot your stick of manly pride , the baton.
  • I had been reading without commenting for a while but.. you're a girl???
    • I had been reading without commenting for a while but.. you're a girl???

      That's what the doctors say, and I agree with them :-)

      It seems that, like everything else in my life, its a bit more complicated than that.

      Short version: The human brain has a few structures that determine your gender identity - what sex you perceive yourself as. If, during the first trimester, you're exposed to too much estrogen, you end up thinking like a girl, seeing yourself as a girl, but everyone else sees you as a boy, an

  • The names that I have always liked are:

    Sara (or Sarah)
    Rebecca
    Jessica
    Lynn
    Caroline
    Rachel
    Samantha
    Elizabeth
    Bethanie (this one is obviously already taken!)
    Ka
    • They're all nice names ... so nice that two of them are already in use by sisters or nieces :-)

      As for the name Bethanie, I heard a rumour that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ... I still associate her with her "do you want fries with that" sig. I'll bet I'm not the only one. It was a classic.

  • List of feminine names off the top of my head that don't sound dumb/young/of-or-like-a-pornstar/etc.:

    Joanna
    Jackie
    Margot
    Lynn
    Caroline
    Lauren
    Elaine
    Elizabeth
    • /of-or-like-a-pornstar/

      One of my friends was bugging me that way for a while. Its a good thing I have a sense of humour and that I know him and his wife like me, because otherwise ...

      There are 4 on the list that I like. Of course, one of them is already taken by another relative. That's the problem with big families - all the good names are taken!!! One of my sisters and I even have daughters with the same first and last names, born the same year ... we didn't check with each other. Makes for a fun f

      • Just don't go with something like Jenna, Ashlyn, or Candy and you'll be good. :^)
        • Thee's a little loophole in the laws here that might allow me to "have my cake and eat it too" in one sense, and it only occured to me yesterday evening.

          After srs, the form allows for including a change of name at no charge - so I can do one name change now (perhaps even keeping the one that's so easy to find using google) to allow me to work, etc., while I amass the necessary $$$, and then go with a second change to then regain my privacy. At least this way I don't "burn" a good choice :-)

          I haven't dec

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