the_mad_poster's Journal: Oh my god...

NOTE: Apparently, On Lawn deleted the article (or Slashdot lost it.. either is totally plausible). The link to "start here" no longer works.

On Lawn is a complete idiot. I just realized it.

Start here.

Note my point: the article is total bullshit. Note what he eventually tries to steer the conversation to: Iraq.

Note how he pretends this doesn't exist while he's talking about Rumsfeld closing a cell door on Hussein.

Note how he pretends that the following statement doesn't exist here:

Records available from the supplier for the period from 1985 until the present show that during this time, pathogenic (meaning "disease producing"), toxigenic (meaning "poisonous"), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq...

The only ground he has to stand on his position there is that I said "the Kurds" and exactly what was used to gas the Kurds can't be solidly pinned down. In other words, I MIGHT be wrong in that ONE portion of a SINGLE statement. Ooo. Wow. Boo hoo for me.

This guy is an imbecile. I have never seen somebody who could so be stupid so consistently and be so smug about it.

Update: While we're talking about imbeciles, check out this thread for a few laughs at the expense of some bozos who are mad that their illegitimate free ride is being threatened.

You know...

[Zirnike]

I could have told you that WEEKS ago. :)

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Aaaah

[freejung]

So that's what you guys were talking about. Or was it? I'd be interested in more links to discussions between you and OL.

However, I must once again step in and defend OL here, much as it sticks in my craw. OL is not an idiot. His tactics are obnoxious as I described elsewhere [slashdot.org], but to simply call him an idiot misses the point. He is not stupid, he is a fanatic. There is a difference, though I admit it is easy to confuse the two. The thing that I find very interesting about OL is that, unlike some of the fa

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Re:Aaaah

[freejung]

Once bitten, twice shy and all that. ;)

I can understand that. However, I am currently engaged in using Aikido tactics to try to achieve a higher degree of harmony in this discussion, and it may be working, OL has said a number of things in a respectful tone, and Tom seems to have calmed down a bit as well. It might be helpful at some point if you would be willing to reengage with OL, and give him a chance to treat you with respect, because I think he may do it, if nothing else just to show that he can.

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OK, maybe just a little

[freejung]

I hadn't read the whole thread when I posted the above. Sam, OL was being extremely unfair to you in that thread, especially in his attacks on your character and motivations. I believe that the whole time, you were honestly trying to get him to clarify his position. He could have just said "because marriage is and ought to be about producing children" and left it at that. Really, this whole debate could have been accomplished in about three posts.

I think the reason he couldn't do that is that he knows thi

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[On Lawn]

Clearly people get married and do not have children; are they also undermining marriage?

This was dealt with in that thread when it came up to gun safety (you can think of marriage as procreation safety). You can destroy a life by creating it and not nurturing it in a way far more malicious than a gun can. And we have gun safety courses becuase guns were designed to kill (that is their purpose).

I've however never killed anything with a gun. Not man nor animal. Never the less I own a gun and have taken cer

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[freejung]

Again, this is as much as slander and I do not think you do justice to yourself in using it.

OL, you said so in so many words, and compared it to picking your nose and eating it. I don't know how else to interpret that. I'm sorry you feel this is slanderous, but if it's not true, then for the record, exactly what is your stance on the moral status of homosexuality? If you do think it is a sin and an abomiation, why would you consider it slander for me to say that you do?

My Uncle said something similar, w

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[On Lawn]

compared it to picking your nose and eating it.

Whoah there! That was not a comparison to homosexuality.

I don't know how else to interpret that.

That analogy provided as an example to explain how I may not like something for myself but have no problem in other people doing it.

what is your stance on the moral status of homosexuality?

It does not increase societies happiness and it is a way that people cheat themselves out of achieving more. Just like copying someone elses homework. Its just a way to g

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[freejung]

Given a choice between "both sides are bad" and "both sides have a right to express thier opinions and beliefs" I'll go for the latter, and apologize for what you took as an insult. I think you have every right to assign whatever status to homosexuality you like. I try not to be intolerant of people who are intolerant, and do not consider it slander to point out that someone holds a particular view on morality.

If I misunderstood your view, I apologize, but AFAIK, you did use the word "abomination" specifi

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[On Lawn]

you did use the word "abomination" specifically

Tom used it, quoting the Bible. In responce I used it to explain how the Bible was using it and my own personal view in relation to it.

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[freejung]

Tom used it, quoting the Bible

Fair enough.

A statement is not slander if it is true. If my statement was false, I apologize. But as to my opinion on the matter, my grandmother thinks homosexuality is immoral. I love my grandmother dearly and would never willingly slander her for any reason. That's just what she believes. I think she is a genuinely loving, caring, decent person who always treats everyone with love and respect. But she simply thinks it's wrong, and that's all there is to it. She has a righ

Woah

[Hi_2k]

I agree with him that the problems with the war in Iraq are vastly overstated. Also, there is a difference between selling weapons to a country at war with the top of our "Rouge Nations" list and selling them to the top of our "Rouge Nations" list. But really, Rummy did some seriously stupid shit and denying that requires a hole in your head about the size of a cantaloupe.

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[gmhowell]

Are the armies of "Rouge Nations" populated with Mary Kay Commandos [amazon.com]?

Thats why I have had him foed

[Organized Konfusion]

since 1968!

Re: Thats why I have had him foed since 1968!

[Richard M. Nixon]

I save my foe points for people who are interesting.
And now I've run out of foe points.

He is about as interesting as arguing with a brick wall, but a little more annoying. Brick walls usually don't dispute facts that have been admitted by our own government and reported in the mainstream press. (Not that the government and mainstream press never lie but.....)

He doesn't seem to understand that while only fools trust the government, the current administration has taken this to the extreme, beyond the bounds

Re: Thats why I have had him foed since 1968!

[gmhowell]

Cool. I'm on Nixon's enemies list. But I like Elvis (fat and doped out, please). So, how does that work?

Don't forget the polls of radio listeners in 1960; they got the substance of the debate, not the sizzle. And they thought you won.

BTW, any truth to the rumours of a homosexual affair between you and Kissinger? Liddy and Dean?

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[the_mad_poster]

Hmmm.... so... your parents foed him, and you're just keeping up the family tradition? :)/p?

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[On Lawn]

Hey, do you play DC? I just killed someone on "Altered Maps" last night in the south base on El Al with your name.

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[Organized Konfusion]

DC? never heard of it!

My name might be quite popular, Organized Konfusion were a two peice rap group back in the day, it was where pharoah monch started out from. They have a big cult following - well its died out in recent years but if you do like pharoah monch it is worth warezing their albums!

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[On Lawn]

Cool, thanks for the info. Truth is we struggled over that base for a while. Though the game ended with me holding the base, it was more timing than that I was any good.

You can find more about DC at this link [desertcombat.com].

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[Organized Konfusion]

wow looks fucking cool i might give it a go!

You ain't seen nothin'

[cyranoVR]

Try reading superyooser's threads sometime.

Also - I figured out that On Lawn was a douche after reading just *one* of his comments.

Take my advice: you're life will be a lot happier when you do what I do and ignore these people. Everyone knows that they're idiots and cowards, so there's no point in getting worked up / wasting energy on them.

So...how's GetSlash.pl coming along? I think I may have picked up enough perl to contribute...my server-watcher script is now "in production" at work :D

Man Poster's Favorite person! Summoned once again

[On Lawn]

Note what he eventually tries to steer the conversation to: Iraq.

I'm not sure where you get "eventually" from. In the link you label as "Start here" you mentioned Iraq, Saddam, and the Kurds. Just how was it that I was eventually steering the conversation to Iraq then? :)

Note how he pretends this doesn't exist while he's talking about Rumsfeld closing a cell door on Hussein.

You asked, "Do I hear Donald Rumsfeld trying to wash the stain of Saddam Hussein off his hands somewhere?" to which I answered, "

My journal is really about two permanent things

[On Lawn]

Yes it was deleted. Any JE that has the tag [LE] means it is a limited engagement and I recently purged them with all the news coming out on same-sex marriages. Don't worry I'll fess up to the quotes you made of mine to be accurate in their absense.

The main focus of my journal has been the same-sex marriage debate. Although I've taken to posting various news articles and commentary also, I do not wish to clutter up my journal. So I tag them with [LE] so that people know it will eventually be deleted.