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  • The terrible thing about them is you need a LOT of parking and such for them. They attract about the same amount of people as a big pro football game. So roads need to be expanded, and you'll need a boatload of parking...

    And during the races... you'll probably hear it. Those things are LOUD!
  • If they build it, tell them you want free tickets to all Busch and Cup events as payment for dealing with 100,000+ NASCAR fans walking through your frontyard. ;)
  • When I was in Daytona beach a couple weeks back I was chatting with a guy who ran a pizza place - while a race was on t.v. He said he lived 10 miles from the track and when they were racing it sounded like a 747 was trying to land on his roof.

  • I go to many tracks, Dover, Pocono, Bristol, Watkins Glen, Charlotte, Talledega... anyway they all have one thing in common.

    You going on vacation the weekend of the race. leave Wednesday and comback Tuesday. Traffic will be INSANE. Noise UNBEARABLE. Litter HORRENDOUS. The flip side is, 100,000+ people trampling through your town once (God willing not twice) a year is GREAT for the economy. Places like Bristol live and die on NASCAR racing.
  • Is it _just_ for NASCAR? At SIR (now renamed to pacific raceway) here in Auburn, when they have top fuel dragsters you can hear them for miles. Sometimes as far away as enumclaw (albeit faintly). There's also the types of neighborhoods that spring up around raceway's. There's a neighborhood behind this particular track affectienlatly known as "The Motorhead Neighborhood". Driving through it, you will see all manner of sports cars in varying states of assembly (or disassembly, or rotting with the intent
    • I parsed snohomish as snoqualmie. Directions still apply, but
      • it's a lot farther
      • you need to shift I-405 to step 2 and put I-5 S in the #1 spot
    • Damn, someone else who lives in Auburn. Small world.

      I used to live right across the freeway from SIR. The upside was we had two hills between us and them. Most of the sound shot right over us. The poor bastards not protected by hills heard it for miles.

      If you remember a large ass yellow sign saying "Keep Out" "No Trespassing" across from the old main entrance from SIR I helped build that at the top of our driveway. Note: Never hit that pole. You and anyone in the vicinity of you will die. Nine foot ta
      • Hey, it is a small world. I think I do remember that sign. I think I used to pass it all the time while going to Harvard on the Hill [greenriver.edu] (when I lived in Covington).

        I also lived over by the flaming geyser (pudge: it's an old gas mine with escaping gas that they light on fire in a park). I lived up the hill on the enumclaw side green valley, and I could hear the Jolly Rancher nationals (among others). I've never been to NASCAR (nor do I care much for it) so I don't know how loud those cars are.

        Pudge: ho
        • Bottom line: in regard to details, there's a lot less known than unknown. It's early in the process, and only the most preliminary of studies have been done. They've identified all the problems that need to be solved and addressed, but not how to address them. So I am waiting.
          • IIRC NASCAR tried to break into the seattle market[1] once before by having some kind of race[2] at SIR[3]. They hated it though because they didn't take care of the pit areas and the rocks and pebbles were embedding themselves in the molten tire rubber between stages. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if they tried getting their own track. Just don't let them near your house :-).

            [1] they like the colder air
            [2] Exhibition only???
            [3] I think about 15 years ago...?
  • I am not a nascar fan, but I have been to a few races. One thing to take note is that the construction of these facilities takes into account the noise pollution. This is always an up-front issue with the community these are built at. Tracks are always built in a remote place, and stuff builds out towards them, never the other way around. The new facilites are almost always designed to project the sounds waves up and away into space. One thing to take note is that race tracks promote the recreational vehicl

    • Does not work if there's an inversion. [wikipedia.org] They tried to build a quarry a few miles away from town. Some of the local professors wisely noted it would be a gawdawful racket, because we frequently have inversions in the area, which would cause the sound to come right back down to us, no matter where they directed the noise.

      And nothing will stop the noise of the cars driving to the event and the cattle within.

      DISCLAIMER: Don't like NASCAR and have irrational, but empirically supported, negative bias agai

  • If eminent domain is being (ab)used to build the thing "for the public good" at the expense of the free choice of private property holders, it should be opposed on principle. Then again, maybe I'm just jaded since I live one city over from what Castle Coalition [castlecoalition.org] calls one of the ten worst abuses of eminent domain in history.

    Don't know beans about NASCAR racing, but I know how sports stadiums usually get built.

  • Great sport (event, whatever) to have in the area. Tends to counter some of the air gallery - wine tasting stuff in the region. Also, I read somewhere that NASCAR fans tend to vote conservative... Definitely good for the area. Better in King County, but you take what you can get.

    Talinom can regail you with stories of growing up near SIR..

  • Buy any land that you can as close to where it'd go in as possible. Buy as much as you can.

    The value's going to skyrocket!

    (You could always open a beer/icecream stand there, but I'd venture it'd be easier to wait on it, then sell it to make a good, quick buck).

    • The value's going to skyrocket!

      Unless they claim eminent domain gives them the right to confiscate the land "for the public good" (give to a big company/sports industry) and give you a "just compensation" that amounts to peanuts.

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