Journal pudge's Journal: Obama Tells Democrats to Not Work 14
The Obama campaign sent out an e-mail saying, "Ask your boss. Ask your professor. Take Election Day off and volunteer to make history."
What a shocker that Obama is telling Democrats to not earn a living, and to live off Republicans' "shared wealth"
Cross-posted on <pudge/*>.
And so the first dictate is handed down (Score:2)
How long does it take to vote? Granted, I live in a smaller suburban area, but it's never taken me longer than 15 minutes to vote in any election. So I read Obama's call as "spend the day rounding up every homeless guy and semi-self-aware retiree with dementia and get 'em to the polls for me!
If only my prayers are answered, and McCain manages to beat this Commandante wannabe, the satisfaction at seeing their shock would be epic.
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How long does it take to vote?
They are asking people to take time to volunteer.
So I read Obama's call as "spend the day rounding up every homeless guy and semi-self-aware retiree with dementia and get 'em to the polls for me!
It depends on your area, but there are different things to do on election day. You can wave signs (not at the polling place, of course); you can, yes, drive people to the polls; you can be a poll watcher; you can call people who haven't yet turned in their ballot; and so on.
If only my prayers are answered, and McCain manages to beat this Commandante wannabe, the satisfaction at seeing their shock would be epic.
No doubt. EPIC FAIL.
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If by volunteer you mean vote multiple times in all of the fake names registered by ACORN & the like. :^)
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It is so awesome that you are consoling yourself with this canard.
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How do you think it is:
a. a consolation
b. a canard
?
I don't think it's either one. Of course people can vote under those fake registrations. That is why it is such a serious crime. And this does not make me feel better about anything ...
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Lots of reports show that it is a rare occurrence. [go.com]
"7 to 8 convictions a year"
So, yes, a "canard". A groundless belief.
And, yes, "consolation". As I said before, I think, based on the evidence around me, that Obama is going to win the election (as I have stated before). I take as that evidence:
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Does it happen?
Yes. Of course it does.
"7 to 8 convictions a year"
So you agree it happens.
And of course, it seems funny to have to point it out, but those are only a PART of the cases they KNOW about. You see -- and I am just speaking obvious fact here -- if they allow a fake registration to go through, then how would you expect them to catch that it is fake and prevent voting?
Sure, it happens, they catch them sometimes. But we cannot know how many times they are NOT caught. Obviously.
In WA, a woman registered her dog to vote [king5.com]. She never voted w
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I stand corrected.
I guess I should have said "Does it happen on any scale that could swing an election?" or "Will it happen on a scale that will swing this election?"
Now I understand that you don't think it will, either. Maybe I am misreading you on that conclusion.
You make a good case that the possibility exists for fraud to occur. I guess the small numbers of actual cases in no way obviates the possibility larger scale fraud may occur even though it hasn't been found when interested parties have
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I guess I should have said "Does it happen on any scale that could swing an election?"
Most likely, yes. The WA governor race was only a 130-ish vote spread. It is likely that in WA, or in some states the size of WA, that there's more than that many illegal registrations used to vote.
"Will it happen on a scale that will swing this election?"
No clue. I'd guess not, but it is foolish to assume it couldn't happen, or even that it is so unlikely as to not be worth talking about.
But I wasn't saying that they are mentioning that there is a gaping hole in the election system. I was saying that they appear to be framing a possible McCain defeat as the result of mass voter fraud swinging an election that they would have otherwise won.
Well, he WAS joking when he said it, as he said: hence the smiley face.
If you think the "belief" I have is that existing fake registrations WILL BE used, en masse, to vote illegally, no, that is not my belief.
So we agree. If McCain loses, it probably won't be because fake registrations were used en masse to vote illegally.
I tend to agree, but that is not what I said. I did not express a belief that this fraud WOULD NOT happ
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Consoling myself? I did include a smiley face - and the comment was modded funny so some people got it. But in all honesty, I feel not an ounce of trust in the results in the elections I will be voting for because my state has the worst election laws around. Same day, no photo-id registration and our elections board has chosen to not comply with the Help Americans Vote Act which should have gone into effect almost three years ago. I have a family friend who is a clerk for a small municipality - four years a
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In Grand Rapids, MI I have had to wait for up to an hour and half to vote. So, yeah, it can take a while. In my current locale I've never had to do anything other than check in and pick up my ballot. I'm usually done in less than 5 minutes.
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Takes me about five minutes to vote, tops. And most of that is the people in charge trying to figure out how to program the machine.
You see, almost everyone votes by mail, but we have disabled access voting machines in the libraries, and I am sometimes the only person to use them. :-)
Where's the ACLU... (Score:2)
Share the wealth! (Score:2)